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** 2020-11-24 https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/24/youtube-suspends-and-demonetizes-one-america-news-network-over-covid-19-video/ "YouTube suspends and demonetizes One America News Network over COVID-19 video"
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* Facebook
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** 2020-11-10 https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/09/parler-app-store-facebook/ "'Free speech' social network Parler tops app store rankings following Biden's election win"
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* Twitter
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* <<twitter>>
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** 2021-01-08 https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspension.html "Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump" Archive of suspended account: https://archive.vn/SSHX6
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** 2020-10-06 https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/5/28/21273241/section-230-explained-trump-social-media-twitter-facebook "Section 230, the internet free speech law Trump wants to repeal, explained". While repealing the law entirely would be stupid, Trump is right that it has given platforms too much control over the media. <<mark-government-controlled-social-media,Except for dictatorial foreign governments>>, or explicitly illegal material, social media platforms should never remove or comment on any content.
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** 2020-05-29 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52846679 Twitter "hides Trump tweet for 'glorifying violence'". The people elected that idiot, Twitter leftists have to swallow that.
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image::{china-dictatorship-media-base}/Rugae_vaginales_with_black_hole.jpg[height=400]
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[[ruhua]]
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====== Ruhua (辱华, 乳华)
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====== Ruhua (disgrace china, 辱华, 乳华)
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Basically a 2 character slang for <<hurt-the-feelings-of-the-chinese-people>> which cool people in the web use:
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* https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/75717383 天天辱华,辱华的到底是谁? on <<zhihu>>
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* https://www.dw.com/zh/一系列国际大牌纷纷陷入辱华风波/a-49994530 on <<dw>>
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* https://www.bbc.com/zhongwen/simp/chinese-news-46314935 on <<bbc>>
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The pardox is: as soon as you start talking about ruhua, you start to risk getting banned in China, because most of ruhua is banned in China itself.
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In this project for example: https://github.com/leiroc/insults the author is aiming to create a list of such insults. So someone came and suggested this project, which is obviouly censored in China, as an example. They even have an <<icp-license>> at https://insults.cn/[], isn't that cute?
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[[shina]]
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====== Shina (zhina, 支那)
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@@ -5296,7 +5302,7 @@ Ciro then finally updated his profile picture to contain <<xi-pooh-photoshop>>,
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Other users who publicly went against freedom of speech in that case (in the name of "political correctness"):
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* https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/665544/bad-coder ("West") replied at: https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/361486/can-i-say-on-my-profile-that-i-find-that-an-ex-president-of-a-country-or-other/361495#361495
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* https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/798831/ollie comments, Ciro replies, they delete comment, comments, Ciro reply, they delete comment... Ciro gives up
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* https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/798831/ollie comments, ciro replies, they delete comment, comments, ciro reply, they delete comment... ciro gives up
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* https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/361486/can-i-say-on-my-profile-that-i-find-that-an-ex-president-of-a-country-or-other?noredirect=1#comment1206900_361486 wants to close as duplicate of uber generic https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/208551/offensive-profiles-where-to-draw-the-line/208553#208553 and says:
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===== Stack Overflow forbids Nazi imagery but allows anti-CCP imagery (2021)
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This once again highlights the hypocrisy of many people in the West: we decide who is good and who is evil. The CCP is now evil, so you can criticize it, even if it shocks Chinese people. Ah, Nazism shocks us, even though it is an event from the past, so that you can't do. You can only shock the Chinese people, not us.
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This one again highlights the hypocrisy of many people in the West: we decide who is good and who is evil. The CCP is now evil, so you can criticize it, even if it shocks Chinese people. Ah, Nazism shocks us, even though it is an event from the past, so that you can't do. You can only shock the Chinese people, not us.
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Or: we like human rights. But not potentially disturbing someone at work even slightly is more important.
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Opened a meta thread for this at: https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/366163/can-i-use-images-such-as-from-tiananmen-square-protests-to-criticise-the-chinese (https://archive.ph/56KK2[archive]) where the top answer was:
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We refuse to make a public decision.
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In response, Ciro wrote the following essay on his profile page: link:stack-exchange-lost-freedom-of-speech.md[].
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Notable people who went against in the comments:
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* https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/295232/glorfindel from the Netherlands commented "As the Dutch police say "if you're asking for attention, you get attention".". No attempt to address the question at all. Just a direct "I'm right, you're wrong, and I'm glad you were punished".
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* https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/282094/rob argues for "anything that raises enough flags should be taken down"
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* https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/353058/holyblackcat "The mods and/or SE staff might not have clear guidelines in place yet, and I bet the last thing they want to do now is to figure out such guidelines to answer your question. If you have to ask, then I would refrain from adding any of that to your profile. Let's keep excessive politics out of SO."
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The interesting thing is that none of them had the courage to actually say "forbid Tiananmen", "forbid Falun Gong". But they all said "forbid not suitable for work". But they won't clarify if "not suitable for work" includes "not suitable for work in China".
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On 2021-05-29 <<ciro-santilli>> added almost all images from this page to his Stack Overflow account as shown at: https://archive.ph/nZLgI
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@@ -9323,7 +9347,7 @@ App made by <<alibaba>> for the <<ccp>> to teach people <<xi-jinping-thought>>.
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Literally means "study for a strong country".
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One of the beautiful things about that name is that is reminds one of the <<slang,expression>> "强国人" (strong country person), coined in during the 2014 during the <<hong-kong-protests-2014>> to refer ironically to Mainland Chines people, due to their exaggerated self-perceived strength and superiority, see also <<wumao-2011-vs-little-pink-2021>>. A homonym "墙国" (wall country) is also known as a reference to the <<gfw>>, https://archive.ph/czYEv[sample usage].
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One of the beautiful things about that name is that is reminds one of the <<slang,expression>> "强国人" (strong country person), coined in during the 2014 during the <<hong-kong-protests-2014>> to refer ironically to Mainland Chines people, due to their exaggerated self-perceived strength and superiority, see also <<wumao-2011-vs-little-pink-2021,Wumao 2011 vs little pink 2021>>. A homonym "墙国" (wall country) is also known as a reference to the <<gfw>>, https://archive.ph/czYEv[sample usage].
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The app appears to have both content, and also tests to check that you've read the bullshit.
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* 2017 http://www.8bb.com/zaojiao/5264.html "小红粉小粉红是什么 家长发现孩子自称小粉红怎么办" (What is a little pink? If a parent discovers that their children call themselves little pinks, what should they do about it?). Kill them.
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[[wumao-2011-vs-little-pink-2021]]
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.Perceived comparison between <<wumao>> and <<little-pink>> suggesting that unpaid Little Pinks are more nationalist and extreme than the paid wumaos, which is not too surprising, considering that they do it for free. https://twitter.com/__Inty__/status/1376942681956487168[Source].
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.Perceived comparison between <<wumao>> and <<little-pink>> suggesting that unpaid Little Pinks are more nationalist and extreme than the paid wumaos, which is not too surprising, considering that they do it for free. A translation is available at: https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/ntghfa/a_lot_changed_after_xi_jin_pooh_became_chairman/[]. https://twitter.com/__Inty__/status/1376942681956487168[Source].
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[[that-rabbit]]
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Bibliography:
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* https://wokeglobaltimes.com/tankies-and-despair tankies, despair, and politics: a case study by the woke global times (2020)
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Discussion/lists: <<quora>>:
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* https://www.quora.com/Why-does-there-seem-to-be-an-upsurge-in-CCP-apologists-and-apologism/answer/Ciro-Santilli on <<quora>>
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**反中国共产党常见问答集 China FAQ: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship**
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Upvote these posts you believe in freedom of speech like me:
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- [Can I use images such as from Tiananmen Square Protests to criticise the Chinese government on my profile page?](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/366163/200117)
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- [Can I say that a major politician is "disgusting as a person"?](https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/366164/200117)
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Since 2015, I have been uploading images that criticise the Chinese government here, because I believe that this **saves lives and prevents human rights violations**. I also believe that these have strong meta support in:
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- https://meta.stackoverflow.com/q/349131/895245
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- https://meta.stackoverflow.com/q/267368/895245
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However, when you try to ask if you can make fun or criticise specific points of dictatorships like the Chinese government, many people in the Stack Exchange community simply refuse to give a clear yes or no answer:
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- if they said no, they would be considered evil for supporting an evil dictatorship
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- if they said yes, then this would allow you to post images that some people living in said dictatorship find distressing (Chinese media calls this "[to hurt the feelings of the Chinese people](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_Chinese_people)"), and like good Liberals we must strive to please *everyone*
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The key question is:
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> Do we have to be nice to dictators and their supporters?
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So their tendency is to:
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- reply that anything that is not suitable for work should not be allowed. But in the end, they mostly don't really enforce it for China.
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- deciding allowed and non allowed topics is too hard. Sure I'm all for human rights, but I don't have the time right now
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- close/delete the discussions asking such questions, e.g.: https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/361493/200117 (Is Winnie-the-Pooh allowed or not?)
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- this should be posted on Twitter! Sure, but I have no Twitter followers, and Twitter is banned in China.
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Imagine if a legal system also "refused to give any clear and specific guidelines, rather deciding everything on a one-by-one basis".
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Wait. No need to imagine. China is the perfect example of that! They claim endlessly to obey [rule of law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_law). But in practice, every decision can be a one-by-one basis by those in power with hidden rules if there is enough interest.
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See also https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/#politically-incorrect
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**The only political image that you can safely post on Stack Exchange**
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