diff --git a/README.adoc b/README.adoc index 91f166a..9154ba7 100644 --- a/README.adoc +++ b/README.adoc @@ -47,7 +47,7 @@ And then <> that this would also <> and militarily powerful. +If commies censor things, they will get worse IT technology, and thus become <> and militarily powerful. Since all they care about, like any other politicians, is power, the only way to make them stop censorship is to make the cost of censorship higher than not censoring. @@ -80,9 +80,9 @@ See also: <>. No. -This is not a revenge of any kind. +This is not revenge of any kind. -He knows he is harming you on the short term, and he doesn't like that. +He knows he is harming you in the short term, and he doesn't like that. But he believes that this harm is a necessary means to reach his real goal, which is to destroy the firewall, and the dictatorship. @@ -111,7 +111,7 @@ Making a statement where no one will ever see it, like a personal website, is << Much of the best art and technology is about using something in a way that it wasn't meant to be used. -Finally, the political powers of each website decide what is allowed or not on their website, and what is not allowed gets blocked. So far, Stack Overflow and GitHub's Terms of Service have said go ahead: +Finally, the political powers of each website decide what is allowed or not on their website, and what is not allowed gets blocked. So far, Stack Overflow and GitHub's Terms of Service have said to go ahead: * <> * <> @@ -129,23 +129,22 @@ If that were the case, I would definitely target more widely technologies, in pa Also, as I've said elsewhere, my actions are very unlikely to have any actions. Much more likely to have any action, would be for me to become rich and powerful first, and the best way to do that is to invest in whatever I think is most useful. -Actually, it can even be argued that I'm somewhat irrational, since I would much more likely become rich and powerful by bowing down to the CCP and trying to get their money instead. +Actually, it can even be argued that I'm somewhat irrational, since I would be much more likely to become rich and powerful by bowing down to the CCP and trying to get their money instead. -On the other hand, becoming rich and powerful is also highly unlikely, so maybe I'm just taking a low risk low reward path? +On the other hand, becoming rich and powerful is also highly unlikely, so maybe I'm just taking a low-risk low-reward path? I have very little free time, and will never do something for political reasons, only things that interest me technically. -Finally, do you really think I'd be able to make such awesome projects if I had primarily political considerations in mind? XD +Finally, do you really think I'd be able to do such awesome projects if I had primarily political considerations in mind? XD ===== Is Ciro Santilli making trivial edits on questions just to spam your name further? No. -I just think that website is great, and want to push it to perfection, in particular with better Google keyword hits, and uniform gramatically correct titles. +I just think that the website is great, and want to push it to perfection, in particular with better Google keyword hits, and uniform grammatically correct titles. If you think that any of my edits were harmful, please ping me and open a meta thread to discuss specific edits, and I will comply with consensus. - [[why-end-dictatorship]] === Why would China be better without its Dictatorship? @@ -180,7 +179,7 @@ Killing a million people will make us richer? No problem, let's do it. + That is great when they make good decisions, but it sucks when they make <> more likely. -I really like https://web.archive.org/web/20180923192824/https://www.becker-posner-blog.com/2011/05/can-poor-countries-afford-democracy-becker.html[Posner's] way of putting it: +I really like https://web.archive.org/web/20180923192824/https://www.becker-posner-blog.com/2011/05/can-poor-countries-afford-democracy-becker.html[Posners'] way of putting it: ____ While average rate of growth do not appear to differ much between democracies and authoritarian regimes, the variability in performance does differ more among authoritarian governments. China has had remarkable growth since the 1980s, but the prolonged devastation and hardship produced by China's "<>" (when millions of farmers starved to death) and its Cultural Revolution would unlikely have occurred in a democratic country like say India. Nor is it likely that say Cuba and many African nations would have suffered so long with such terrible economic policies if they had reasonably democratic institutions. @@ -376,7 +375,7 @@ This is a common strategy, but the West is not as evil as they say: ____ Once upon a time, there was a farmer with a farm. -One day, the animals in the farm started feeling a bit trapped, and started bumping against the fence to get out. +One day, the animals on the farm started feeling a bit trapped, and started bumping against the fence to get out. The farmer, however, was smart, and told the animals: @@ -388,11 +387,11 @@ The animals, were not that smart, and listened to the farmer, they were afraid! From time to time, one of the animals would disappear (and without their knowledge, reappear on the farmer's dinner table). -But the farmer kept giving the animals delicious food without them doing any effort, so they decided to believe the farmer's explanation that that animal had escaped and been eaten by the wolf. +But the farmer kept giving the animals delicious food without them making any effort, so they decided to believe the farmer's explanation that animal had escaped and been eaten by the wolf. Maybe, there was actually a wolf outside. But if they had escaped, only some of the animals would have been eaten by that wolf. -But by staying in the farm, all the animals were, sooner or later, eaten one by one. +But by staying on the farm, all the animals were, sooner or later, eaten one by one. ____ TODO source. @@ -466,27 +465,27 @@ ____ The <> is basically an embargo. -There is already a lot of literature about this, specially in the cases of Cuba and North Korea. It is basically a libertarian vs conservative / Cato vs Heritage thing in the US: +There is already a lot of literature about this, especially in the cases of Cuba and North Korea. It is basically a libertarian vs conservative / Cato vs Heritage thing in the US: * https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/no-embargo-harms-cubans-gives-castro-excuse-policy-failures-regime * https://www.heritage.org/trade/report/why-the-cuban-trade-embargo-should-be-maintained * http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_big_idea/2006/08/thanks_for_the_sanctions.html -The key dilemma is is: +The key dilemma is: * if we keep contact with the Dictatorship, maybe its people will see that democracy is better and start a liberating revolution * if we keep giving technology to the Dictatorship and it does not become a democracy, we are making a Dictatorship more technologically advanced, and therefore <> Some interesting aspects of the keyword attack embargo: -* it is immediately self enforcing: we don't need politicians to decide and enforce the complex "if you do this, we punish you like that" question. +* it is immediately self-enforcing: we don't need politicians to decide and enforce the complex "if you do this, we punish you like that" question. + By political and technological information is together, and this immediately puts the dictatorship in a bad spot, without us having to decide anything. * by affecting programmers in particular through Stack Overflow and GitHub, we make them more likely to develop better <> tools themselves -One point in favor of the embargo is that China has opened up since the 80's 90's, but did freedom improve at all? Under <>, it may be argued that it did not, and maybe that we should just stop feeding them technology and accept that they won't become free. +One point in favor of the embargo is that China has opened up since the '80s '90s, but did freedom improve at all? Under <>, it may be argued that it did not, and maybe that we should just stop feeding them technology and accept that they won't become free. -Trump's link:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/02/trump-banning-huawei-beginning-of-biggest-trade-war-ever-united-states[2019 China trade war], and in particular the Huawei ban, is an event that have brought this question to the spotlight once again. +Trump's link:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/02/trump-banning-huawei-beginning-of-biggest-trade-war-ever-united-states[2019 China trade war], and in particular the Huawei ban, is an event that has brought this question to the spotlight once again. ===== Keyword attacks could be used by certain CCP political groups to justify blocking off the entire external Internet, and make the dictatorship even more pervasive @@ -495,11 +494,11 @@ It is a risk, but it would make China drastically <>, so a [[effect]] ==== Keyword attacks on programming websites will never have any effect -That is true with high probability, just like any other individual which tries to influence 1B people. +That is true with high probability, just like any other individual who tries to influence 1B people. Every action is statistical: I just push the balance a little bit towards freedom. -This FAQ and any talk is useless. You and I are wasting our times here. +This FAQ and any talk is useless. You and I are wasting our time here. The possibility of blocking Stack Overflow and GitHub is 1000x more useful than any talk, but it is still useless. @@ -517,7 +516,7 @@ And if we never start somewhere, nothing will ever happen. [[so-block-cost]] ==== Stack Overflow and GitHub could be blocked at no cost by the Chinese government -Hitting the block button has of course no cost. +Hitting the block button has, of course, no cost. The cost of blocking Stack Overflow lies of course in the loss of information, and slower technological development, see also: <> @@ -525,7 +524,7 @@ Remember that it is not possible for the Chinese government to block only certai The 2019 <> event however brought to my attention that Chinese (usually WebKit-based) browsers are already censoring HTTPS websites selectively of course, see e.g.: https://github.com/996browser/996.BROWSER/tree/77f28a36a862e3cc4d238dc47c19872156096bc4 -But I doubt developers use those browsers right? The only way would be for China to forbid foreign browsers entirely. +But I doubt developers use those browsers, right? The only way would be for China to forbid foreign browsers entirely. === This is your personal problem, we have nothing to do with it, stop punishing us for it @@ -575,13 +574,13 @@ See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intolerance_(film)[Intolerance (1916) fi Destroying diversity is the best way to reach a point where everyone can agree to start <>. -The CCP thrives on the excessive <>. +The CCP thrives on the excessive <>. How can society improve, if we are never allowed to try new things out? Change in democracies does not require <>. Violence happens because the government punishes any dissidence, even if pacific, to retain its own power. -In democracies, radical policy changes happen without dropping a single drop of blood. People vote, and policies change, end of story. In https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy[JFK's] words: +In democracies, radical policy changes happen without dropping a single drop of blood. People vote, and policies change, end of the story. In https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy[JFK's] words: ____ Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable @@ -686,7 +685,7 @@ See also: Ciro Santilli's <>, her mother, and paternal cousin, believe that Ciro's wife is the descendant of the brother of a recent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qing_dynasty[Qing emperor] through her father's family. -Although they have not been able to produce concrete evidence, which could be explained by the endless political turmoils in 20th century China, Ciro decided that this would be a good bet to take, and married her anyways. +Although they have not been able to produce concrete evidence, which could be explained by the endless political turmoils in 20th century China, Ciro decided that this would be a good bet to take, and married her anyway. If anyone is able to provide further evidence of this relationship, please, please, please get in touch. @@ -727,15 +726,15 @@ Our opinions are all determined genetically and by bring-up, and there is nothin From that point of view, all of this is just a cold blooded political game, in which I try to force the CCP to take down the Firewall: <>. -Unfortunately I'm still still human and do get annoyed or sad sometimes, but never mad, even if your opinion is contrary to mine, and therefore wrong :-) The <> helps reduce such frustrations tremendously however. +Unfortunately I'm still human and do get annoyed or sad sometimes, but never mad, even if your opinion is contrary to mine, and therefore wrong :-) The <> helps reduce such frustrations tremendously however. I also have doubts about certain things I do as expressed throughout this FAQ. -Also, I have never said that that anyone else is wrong. +Also, I have never said that anyone else is wrong. In the end, I just end up thinking about new replies to things people say to me, and add them to this FAQ so that future replies will be faster to copy paste. See also: <>. -The real goal of this FAQ it not to convince people, but rather to determine who is an ally and who is not, and get those allies together to defeat the commies. +The real goal of this FAQ is not to convince people, but rather to determine who is an ally and who is not, and get those allies together to defeat the commies. [[flg-bias]] ==== Does Ciro Santilli support FLG just because his wife and mother-in-law do it? @@ -748,15 +747,15 @@ But of course, this is impossible to answer objectively. Wouldn't you be rather upset if your <>? -But don't you think that <> getting completely squashed by the Party illustrates extremely well the dangers of the dictatorship? +But don't you think that <> getting completely squashed by the Party illustrates extremely well the dangers of the dictatorship? With that in mind, Ciro tries his best to give FLG only the right level of exposure I think it deserves relative to other events, according to these guidelines: <>. -If more recent events of mass human rights violation happen, especially affecting in the order of tens of million people, I will probably rank higher than Falun Gong, this was the case for <> for example, even though it only affected a measly million. +If more recent events of mass human rights violations happen, especially affecting in the order of tens of million people, I will probably rank higher than Falun Gong, this was the case for <> for example, even though it only affected a measly million. ==== Why did Ciro Santilli start his keyword attack? -The last straw that led <> to start the <> on <> was when in March 2015 his girlfriend's mother was arbitrarily kept 15 days in jail for doing <>. He posted about this at: +The last straw that led <> to start the <> on <> was when on March 2015 his girlfriend's mother was arbitrarily kept 15 days in jail for doing <>. He posted about this at: * https://twitter.com/cirosantilli/status/579270450984984576 * https://www.facebook.com/cirosantilli/posts/952661734753174 @@ -860,11 +859,11 @@ The more freedom we have, the sooner we want to be controlled by SS troops again And then we want our the secret police back, and concentration death camps again, and the universal fear everywhere! Only then we feel calm and secure. -No need to prove your point of view in defending the fate of the home land. +No need to prove your point of view in defending the fate of the homeland. No responsibility. -Just raise your hand in the honor of him, who will take care of everything for you, +Just raise your hand in honor of him, <>, Just shout out "Hail Hitler!" and everything will become understandable. @@ -920,7 +919,7 @@ ____ However, this is all obviously subjective, and believing that dictatorship is a better form of government is also a valid belief. -If you find an event on an Western democracy that you would like to highlight, send a pull request. We will not however include events which are not currently censored. Every country did fucked up things in the past, the question is if they currently allow discussion about it or not. +If you find an event on a Western democracy that you would like to highlight, send a pull request. We will not however include events that are not currently censored. Every country did fucked-up things in the past, the question is if they currently allow discussion about it or not. See also: @@ -948,7 +947,7 @@ See also: ===== Western democracies also censor subjects such as child porn and hate speech -First, if you don't think child porn should be banned, I don't think there is much point on arguing with you anymore. +First, if you don't think child porn should be banned, I don't think there is much point in arguing with you anymore. But of course, there is censorship in Western democracies, and there is a gray area between what should be censored or not. @@ -981,7 +980,7 @@ Ultimately, Ciro thinks camera surveillance is somewhat inevitable, because peop He is however strictly against the ban of cryptography. -He also believes that a good solution to balance out government power is the second amendment. It is better to have more school shootings and less full blown dictatorship led genocides / mass human rights violations. +He also believes that a good solution to balance out government power is the second amendment. It is better to have more school shootings and less full-blown dictatorship led genocides / mass human rights violations. In 2019 China amusingly censored passages Snowden's "Permanent Record" autobiography book, which Snowden then published on Twitter: @@ -1003,7 +1002,7 @@ image::https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Edward_Snowden-2.jpg[ When a government controls all information to make it look good, and no one can challenge it, you cannot trust _any_ of the news produced by that country, as anything could be fake. -It is much better to have some fake news, but also few sources which are likely telling the truth. +It is much better to have some fake news, but also few sources that are likely telling the truth. ===== Bad things have been done in the name of freedom @@ -1026,17 +1025,17 @@ Here are some images that <>'s like to post: Russia is clearly the number 2 <> in the world by population / GDP and the link:https://www.ploughshares.org/world-nuclear-stockpile-report[#1 nuclear arsenal], so here we go. -I've always been curious to how Russia can be both oppressive and a democracy, unlike China which doesn't even try to pretend. This is what I gather: +Ciro has always been curious about how Russia can be both oppressive and a appear democratic, unlike China which doesn't even try to pretend. This is what he gathers: * the government controls all major media. If any media says bad things against them, the government finds pretexts to create lawsuits or increase taxes against such companies. Therefore all people end up thinking that the government is good. -* just like China, they emphasise the threat of the foreign countries, especially the US, as a justification for having an oppressive power. -* the government puts pressure on any significant opposition candidate. One technique is to find some reason to put them in jail for 2 months, which by Russian law forbids them from participating in further elections. Only candidates that don't really stand a chance are left as a fake opposition. is fine, but if you reach some prominence, you start taking the same risks as politicians, although you are more likely to face more brutal illegal gangster violence threats as you are less visible +* just like China, <>, especially the US, as a justification for having an oppressive power. +* the government puts pressure on any significant opposition candidate. One technique is to find some reason to put them in jail for two months, which by Russian law forbids them from participating in further elections. Only candidates that don't really stand a chance are left as a fake opposition. But if you reach some prominence, you start taking the same risks as politicians, although you are more likely to face more brutal illegal gangster violence threats as you are less visible See also: <> While we are at it, some interesting news: -* 2018-04 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-43752337 Russia to block Telegram app over encryption +* 2018-04 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-43752337 "Russia to block Telegram app over encryption" * 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40635267 Russia Jehovah's Witnesses banned after they lose appeal * 2017 http://www.scmp.com/news/world/russia-central-asia/article/2085395/its-now-illegal-russia-share-image-putin-possibly-gay * 2016 https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/kzgkv3/russians-now-need-a-passport-to-watch-pornhub @@ -1238,8 +1237,6 @@ image::https://web.archive.org/web/20191003190442if_/https://i.redd.it/c0d340rts If you don't know English well enough, that's fine though, go for Chinese. -Obviously, in that case, use simple and standard Chinese. Avoid slangs, otherwise I might not have patience to Google your useless slangs down <> questions. Of course, if I have to tell you this, you likely are not going to say anything useful in the first place, so not reading your post is likely fine. I think using slangs makes some people feel smart due their advanced knowledge of a specific subculture, or makes them feel part of that subculture to gather allies, or they just want to waste my time. - But if you do, use English. I am not going to learn Chinese because of your message. @@ -1250,6 +1247,17 @@ Especially since it seems that most Chinese already know what you are talking ab See also: <>. +[[slang]] +===== I am going to use a bunch of Chinese slangs because it makes me feel smart + +Obviously, if you want to be understood, use simple and standard Chinese. + +Avoid slangs, otherwise Ciro might not have patience to Google your useless slangs down <> questions. + +Of course, if you have to read this, you likely are not going to say anything useful in the first place, so not reading your post is likely fine. + +Using slangs makes some people feel smart due their advanced knowledge of a specific subculture, or makes them feel part of that subculture to gather allies, or they just want to waste Ciro's time. + [[shitpost]] ===== I want to take my chances and make a shitpost in cirosantilli/china-dictatorship @@ -1337,9 +1345,9 @@ Ciro reads with link:http://www.perapera.org/[Perapera], write with a mixture of He <> because <>, but he did learn the most common ones without trying. -Ciro really wishes he could learn more, but he has other more important endeavours at the moment :-( +Ciro really wishes he could learn more, but he has other more important endeavors at the moment :-( -He initially learnt from book that come with audio recordings in the first 6-months to 1 year in 2010, but that got impossibly boring afterwards, so he later moved to just basically talking as much as possible non-important things to <>, and whenever he reaches one that I don't know that seems useful, he Plecos it up or just 怎么说 and then Pleco. +He initially learnt from book that come with audio recordings in the first 6-months to 1 year in 2010, but that got impossibly boring afterward, so he later moved to just basically talking as much as possible non-important things to <>, and whenever he reaches one that I don't know that seems useful, he Plecos it up or just 怎么说 and then Pleco. Spoken Chinese is in Ciro's opinion a relatively easy language to learn from scratch, because word formation is so often logical:, e.g.: @@ -1409,7 +1417,7 @@ I limit myself to listening as much as I can to learn new arguments. So the rationale of my actions is _not_ to convince anyone, but rather: * increase the monetary cost of censorship by binding politics to tech -* group up like minded people who don't like censorship +* group up like-minded people who don't like censorship See also: <> @@ -1508,7 +1516,7 @@ Just kidding. A shady supporting organization might require that he does not disclose their support, so maybe the best answer is that you will never know for sure. -Of course, a hidden support would represent a reputation hit for both such organization and for me, which makes it less likely that I would have accepted or had such an offer. +Of course, a hidden support would represent a reputation hit for both such organizations and for me, which makes it less likely that I would have accepted or had such an offer. Also consider Ciro's motivation. If your <>, for following the same religion that <>, and if you had a social media presence, wouldn't you be tempted to do the same? @@ -1518,7 +1526,7 @@ See also: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/blob/48a95bf57a16b8 ==== Would Ciro Santilli be doing his China freedom campaign if he was in China? -Not with his real name attached to it， see also: +Not with his real name attached to it, see also: * <> * <> @@ -1535,7 +1543,7 @@ Obviously, this action limits my ability to lead high profile deals with China. Also I'm quite curious if this would limit my ability to go to China for business, but I haven't applied for a visa since I've started this. It likely wouldn't be a good idea for me to go to China :-) -But my employer believes that inclusion and non-discrimination is more valuable. +But my employer believes that inclusion and non-discrimination are more valuable. I will always do my best to not let my personal opinions affect my professional decisions, as that would be unfair to my employer. @@ -1654,7 +1662,7 @@ This only works on websites that show usernames everywhere. This then leads to your username appearing on thousands of pages, depending on how much you contribute to the website. -It is also possible to do it with with images, although this is less effective in taking down websites since images are harder for the firewall to track automatically. But: +It is also possible to do it with images, although this is less effective in taking down websites since images are harder for the firewall to track automatically. But: * they are more memorable than words * they also work on websites like GitHub where your real name does not show on most pages, only slug @@ -1675,7 +1683,7 @@ https://www.reddit.com/r/China Catches all the important news -A large part of the posts is controversial material. +A large part of the posts has controversial material. Has some noise of course as well, but less than other media I find. @@ -1683,7 +1691,7 @@ Highly worth your feed. Reddit was banned in China in August 2018: https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/965k4c/reddit_banned_in_china/ -Tecent will invest 150 million on Reddit in 2019: https://gizmodo.com/reddit-banned-in-china-is-reportedly-set-to-land-150-1832375439 See also: <>. +Tencent will invest 150 million on Reddit in 2019: https://gizmodo.com/reddit-banned-in-china-is-reportedly-set-to-land-150-1832375439 See also: <>. ==== Where can I find good words for a keyword attack? @@ -1704,13 +1712,13 @@ See also: * <> [[keyword-choice]] -==== How do you choose keyword for the keyword attack? +==== How do you choose keywords for the keyword attack? I haven't counted, but the limit for Stack Overflow is quite low, and I'm always almost at the maximum, which is about "Ciro Santilli" + 3 3-4 Chinese character events with a separator. These are some of my prioritization guidelines: -* recent cases receive a large prime over raw death toll, because older cases can always be attributed to other people. +* recent cases receive a large prime over the raw death toll, because older cases can always be attributed to other people. + E.g., I've heard there is even some opening towards acknowledging the Great Famine, thus 烏坎事件 (and others from my previous profile names) * words must refer to a precise event, and must be clearly summarizable in very few chars, for increased impact, and profile name length limitations. @@ -1756,11 +1764,11 @@ Notable ones only here (high rep or innovative criticism): + https://stackoverflow.com/users/1230329/scott-混合理论 + -Same message as Yu Hao, I wonder if it is an external thing or direct copy of Yu, but no Google hits besides them. +The same message as Yu Hao, I wonder if it is an external thing or direct copy of Yu, but no Google hits besides them. * Terry Wang ** http://stackoverflow.com/users/1801697/terry-wang ** http://archive.is/V0aSK -** Lego recreation of Tankman on profile picture. +** Lego recreation of Tankman on the profile picture: <> Users who had <> references but removed it: @@ -1774,7 +1782,7 @@ Misc interesting stuff: * 火车站酒店小姐 (about 20 accounts with that pattern) ** https://stackoverflow.com/users/7040504/莆田火车站酒店小姐 ** http://web.archive.org/web/20190428090348/https://stackoverflow.com/users/7040504/%E8%8E%86%E7%94%B0%E7%81%AB%E8%BD%A6%E7%AB%99%E9%85%92%E5%BA%97%E5%B0%8F%E5%A7%90 -** Interesting list of prostitution spam / sockpuppets? All have the exact same profile information. +** Interesting list of prostitution spam/sockpuppets? All have the exact same profile information. ** Hitting query due to "审查", but the usage is unrelated to the Firewall. Anti-dissident users: @@ -1856,13 +1864,13 @@ The fact that most countries in the world does officially recognize Taiwan as a <> let China advance and take more territories. The more they take, the more they will want. -The West must protect China's neighbouring countries with military support and assurance. +The West must protect China's neighboring countries with military support and assurance. The West must recognize Taiwan for what it is: a separate country, under threat of invasion, and in need of support. If China's claim to Taiwan is valid, then Taiwan also has an equally valid claim on China. -If China's claim to Taiwan is valid, then so will it's claim to any other country. +If China's claim to Taiwan is valid, then so will its claim to any other country. China, if you want to claim that Taiwan is a part of you, just grow some balls and invade them already. Or just stop this stupid joke. @@ -1883,7 +1891,7 @@ http://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/62447/how-can-a-citizen-of-mainland-ch A well educated Mainlander who lived outside of China once told Ciro: ____ -Taiwan should not be considered a country by China, because then it would not join back to China when China becomes a democracy, and would be used by the USA to do evil things like they did in the Middle East +Taiwan should not be considered a country by China, because then it would not join back to China when China becomes a democracy, and would be used by the USA to do evil things as they did in the Middle East ____ Ciro was shocked. He considered that person highly intelligent and not fully brainwashed! Reply: @@ -1959,7 +1967,7 @@ video::dEkliuqQo-g[youtube,height=400,width=600] ** https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/16/world/asia/china-xinjiang-documents.html ** https://www.icij.org/investigations/china-cables/exposed-chinas-operating-manuals-for-mass-internment-and-arrest-by-algorithm/ ** 2020-02: more leaks containing detailed records of several citizens: https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2020/02/asia/xinjiang-china-karakax-document-intl-hnk/ -* 2019-09-22 Drone footage of Xinjiang prisoner transfer uploaded to YouTube. TODO confirm location and that these are political prisoners rather than "normal criminals". +* 2019-09-22 Drone footage of Xinjiang prisoner transfer uploaded to YouTube. TODO confirm the location and that these are political prisoners rather than "normal criminals". ** Upload sources *** https://twitter.com/warcombatfear/status/1174031079432310785 *** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGYoeJ5U7cQ @@ -1977,7 +1985,7 @@ image::https://ia601505.us.archive.org/27/items/cirosantilli/Video_still_of_2019 .<> 2019-07 cartoon showing <> claiming to have won the global opinion on the Xinjiang re-education camps because all other dictatorships support him, including <>. https://www.rfa.org/english/cartoons/XiJinping-uyghur-camp-cartoon-07162019155441.html[Source]. image::https://web.archive.org/web/20191012074352im_/https://www.rfa.org/english/cartoons/XiJinping-uyghur-camp-cartoon-07162019155441.html/190716RFA-en-1000.jpg/@@images/c8c9143a-3a01-4116-9322-6aeb4857100f.jpeg[height=400] * 2019-07-04 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-48825090 "China Muslims: Xinjiang schools used to separate children from families" -* 2019-06-18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmId2ZP3h0c "Inside China's 'thought transformation' camps - BBC News" China gives BBC "access" to a chosen show camp where everyone claims is happy and willing to stay. They are however clearly adults being treated like children, taking courses and even having to sing and dance for the camera. https://youtu.be/WmId2ZP3h0c?t=486[486s] is also golden, when the CCP officer Zhang Zhisheng explains how they are <>. How can they be so stupid? How can they not see that this is not what the West wants to hear? Amazing dark-comedy like stuff. +* 2019-06-18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmId2ZP3h0c "Inside China's 'thought transformation' camps - BBC News" China gives BBC "access" to a chosen show camp where everyone claims they are happy and willing to stay. They are however clearly adults being treated like children, taking courses and even having to sing and dance for the camera. https://youtu.be/WmId2ZP3h0c?t=486[486s] is also golden, when the CCP officer Zhang Zhisheng explains how they are <>. How can they be so stupid? How can they not see that this is not what the West wants to hear? Amazing dark-comedy like stuff. + video::WmId2ZP3h0c[youtube,height=400,width=600] * 2019-05-07 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/07/revealed-new-evidence-of-chinas-mission-to-raze-the-mosques-of-xinjiang @@ -1991,13 +1999,13 @@ video::ULaJVWOr4ko[youtube,height=400,width=600] * 2018-12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=dsd1NkCKaNg In full: 'I begged them to kill me' - ex-Xinjiang detainee Mihrigul Tursun gives testimony in the US + video::dsd1NkCKaNg[youtube,height=400,width=600] -* 2018-11 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-45812419 Xinjiang legalises 're-education' camps +* 2018-11 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-45812419 Xinjiang legalizes 're-education' camps * 2018-08 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-rights-un/u-n-says-it-has-credible-reports-that-china-holds-million-uighurs-in-secret-camps-idUSKBN1KV1SU * 2018-07 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eak3WRtcdko Sairagul Sawytbai testifies to the existence of Chinese concentration camps in Xinjiang + video::Eak3WRtcdko[youtube,height=400,width=600] * 2018-05 generic report https://jamestown.org/program/evidence-for-chinas-political-re-education-campaign-in-xinjiang/ -* 2018-05 mapping interment camps with satelite imaging: +* 2018-05 mapping internment camps with satellite imaging: ** https://www.albawaba.com/news/mapping-china’s-internment-camps-its-ethnic-minorities-1136100 ** https://medium.com/@shawnwzhang/list-of-re-education-camps-in-xinjiang-新疆再教育集中营列表-99720372419c List of Re-education Camps in Xinjiang 新疆再教育集中营列表 Shawn Zhang https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/8mbhad/satellite_imagery_of_xinjiang_reeducation_camps/ * 2018-05 Omir Bekali's account of Xinjiang education camps: @@ -2052,8 +2060,10 @@ video::M_aXcH1zDEE[youtube,height=400,width=600] ===== 2019 Hong Kong anti-extradition bill protests * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Hong_Kong_anti-extradition_bill_protests -* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEvalUQuClE "Last Hong Kong governor Chris Patten: Gov't defence of extradition bill 'absolute nonsense'", Hong Kong Free Press -** 2019-10 https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1181442535962632193 Blizzard bans top Hearthstone esports player blitzchung for pro Hong Kong message in interview +* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEvalUQuClE "Last Hong Kong governor Chris Patten: Gov't defense of extradition bill 'absolute nonsense'", Hong Kong Free Press +** 2019-10 https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1181442535962632193 Blizzard bans top Hearthstone esports player Blitzchung (Ng Wai Chung) for pro Hong Kong message in interview ++ +Wiki page of the event: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitzchung_controversy ====== Daryl Morey Tweet @@ -2085,6 +2095,8 @@ In online video games: * 2020-04-08 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-08/nintendo-s-animal-crossing-becomes-new-hong-kong-protest-ground Animal Crossing * <> +Explicitly forbidden in China by the law: <>. + See also: <>. ===== Appropriation attack @@ -2122,6 +2134,10 @@ The most obvious thing is to go https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tit_for_tat[tit fo * https://www.facebook.com/globaltimesnews/ ** 2020-04-07 https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/9397v8/chinas-been-flooding-facebook-with-shady-ads-blaming-trump-for-the-coronavirus-crisis "China's Been Flooding Facebook With Shady Ads Blaming Trump for the Coronavirus Crisis" +News about Chinese state media using Western social media: + +* 2016 http://qz.com/671211/chinas-propaganda-outlets-have-leaped-the-top-of-facebook-even-though-it-banned-at-home/ "China’s propaganda news outlets are absolutely crushing it on Facebook" + Accounts that are not labelled as being from the Chinese government, but which support the CCP, must be investigated to determine if they are actually funded by the Chinese government. Their websites should also be blocked, see: <>. This does have the downsides that: @@ -2129,7 +2145,11 @@ Their websites should also be blocked, see: <>. This d * it would be harder to monitor what crazy shit the commies are doing * those censorship mechanisms could be reused to block good websites by Western governments that are becoming Evil -But anything that pisses off the CCP is worth it, like there's much we can learn from their bullshit. Another upside is that this would also hugely bolster <> technologies, as every Chinese expat would need to buy a VPN. +But anything that pisses off the CCP is worth it, like there's much we can learn from their bullshit. + +Whenever China kicks out a western journalist who is in China and reports there, the Western country must do the same and kick out a Chinese journalists for a Chinese media. + +Another upside is that this would also hugely bolster <> technologies, as every Chinese expat would need to buy a VPN. * https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/18508/why-dont-western-countries-penalize-chinese-companies-in-the-same-way-that-chin @@ -2194,9 +2214,9 @@ City at the very least, but if recognizable, where withing the city. Yes, China is big! There are many different places in China. -==== Western companies that comply to Chinese censorship requests +==== Western companies that comply with Chinese censorship requests -Western government should prevent companies from complying to Chinese censorship requests, or at least impose fines and sanctions on them. +Western governments should prevent companies from complying to Chinese censorship requests, or at least impose fines and sanctions on them. Citizens should boycott such companies and require them to be punished. @@ -2254,7 +2274,7 @@ Boycott those: First of all, hide and stay safe, unless you can deal the final blow. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_at_War[World at war, 1973], ep. 16: ____ -A dictatorship is like a snake. If you put your foot on its tail as you do it, it will just bite you and no body will be helped. You have to strike the head. +A dictatorship is like a snake. If you put your foot on its tail as you do it, it will just bite you and nobody will be helped. You have to strike the head. ____ Once that is taken care of, a few good options are: @@ -2262,7 +2282,7 @@ Once that is taken care of, a few good options are: * hide your thoughts, manipulate your enemies, infiltrate the corporate, political and military power circles, and go up the ladder * if you are an technological innovator, leave China and come work for the West. Don't strengthen commie power. -If you don't manage to do either of the above, don't do any technological work. Go work on the fields or washing dishes. Working well for Chinese companies makes the Chinese <> stronger and <>. See also: <>. +If you don't manage to do either of the above, don't do any technological work. Go work on the fields or washing dishes. Working well for Chinese companies makes the Chinese <> stronger and <>. See also: <>. And regardless: remember your kids that the commies are bastards every day. @@ -2281,7 +2301,7 @@ In order to not waste too much time on those, Ciro Santilli use the following st If the original thread post is not very interesting, try to parse it quickly and reply once, always <>, and then unfollow the thread. This shows that you're still alive, and takes little effort. -Then do your best to never read the inevitable reply again. An interesting reply never follows from a non-interesting original post. It is hard at first, but you will eventually get the hang of it. +Then do your best never to read the inevitable reply again. An interesting reply never follows from a non-interesting original post. It is hard at first, but you will eventually get the hang of it. If the user keeps generating notifications, warning + temporary block as per link:CONTRIBUTING.md[]. @@ -2307,7 +2327,7 @@ ____ Don’t answer the foolish arguments of fools, or you will become as foolish as they are. ____ -which is now usually seen on the form https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/66460/origin-of-do-not-argue-with-idiots[of unclear attribution]: +which is now usually seen in the form https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/66460/origin-of-do-not-argue-with-idiots[of unclear attribution]: ____ Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. @@ -2375,7 +2395,7 @@ The current consensus says that keyword attacks are allowed: * https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/299882/can-a-username-be-considered-spam * https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/349131/users-political-display-name-triggering-government-action-against-users-who-vie -The Chinese law doesn't I'm afraid :-( https://advox.globalvoices.org/2015/04/16/new-internet-rules-in-china-target-usernames-avatars-as-subversive-tools/ +The Chinese law doesn't I'm afraid: <> ==== GitHub @@ -2403,7 +2423,7 @@ GitHub has absolute transparency on Government takedowns, which is awesome: http This makes that repo into a list of fun things. -As of 2019-05 there had only been only 2 takedowns by China however, compared to dozens by <>. The Chinese commies are not big fans of transparency it seems. +As of 2019-05 there had only been only two takedowns by China however, compared to dozens by <>. The Chinese commies are not big fans of transparency it seems. As of 2020-03, besides the Zhao takedown, all other takedowns happened in 2019, and most seem to be <>/<> sponsored ways to <>. @@ -2467,7 +2487,7 @@ ____ 帐号已停用，请联系：user@zhihu.com ____ -So likely someone must have used the fact that this was an edgy personal information release subject issue, and then someone from Zhihu decided to purge Ciro and anyone posts that ever talked about him. +So likely someone must have used the fact that this was an edgy personally information release subject issue, and then someone from Zhihu decided to purge Ciro and anyone posts that ever talked about him. Note that not only the posts made by Ciro himself were deleted: he had never asked any questions or made any Zhuanlan posts himself, only replied to those. But that content made by other users was still removed. Therefore, this is not just a simple user ban, but active censorship. @@ -2506,7 +2526,7 @@ This includes liking, commenting, answering, asking or trying to update my profi This message also shows on my public page for everyone to see: https://www.zhihu.com/people/cirosantilli/activities but they use some JavaScript scheme complicated enough that archive.is cannot capture it. -I still get notifications however, but I am unable to reply to them, specially given that all Chinese accounts, unlike mine, have no personal identifiable information due to the understandable fear Chinese citizens have of their own government, even though such accounts might be illegal in theory: <>. +I still get notifications however, but I am unable to reply to them, especially given that all Chinese accounts, unlike mine, have no personal identifiable information due to the understandable fear Chinese citizens have of their own government, even though such accounts might be illegal in theory: <>. The only action that I can take now is to report abusive comments people make to me. @@ -2532,7 +2552,7 @@ ____ 你滥用了github， 也滥用了Stackover。这个一个纯粹计算机、编程和知识分享的地方，请不要带入政治性的色彩。请不要这么做， 维护社区的非政治性、中立和技术性纯粹，是每个热爱cs的人应尽的义务。 ____ -I am unable to get an URL that shows the comment on archive.is, so I have no proof of this claim. If you trust me, then here is a screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/YCiEEax +I am unable to get a URL that shows the comment on archive.is, so I have no proof of this claim. If you trust me, then here is a screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/YCiEEax Since I expect the ban lists to be private, I find it extremely likely that this was the user who reported me, unless both were simultaneously triggered by a third event which I have not seen. So correct me if I'm wrong here. @@ -2610,8 +2630,9 @@ https://www.quora.com/profile/Ciro-Santilli Quora is a generally shitty website, with mechanisms that allow <> to quench freedom of speech. -* 2016 Ciro Santilli's profile was blocked because it had Chinese keywords on both my username and credentials. Justification: non-English. -* 2017 created one in English: Cook <> Noodle Shop. +* 2016 Ciro Santilli's profile was blocked because it had Chinese keywords on both my username and credentials. Justification: "non-English". ++ +* 2017 created one in English: Cook <> Noodle Shop, from <> + Added my Noodle shop to maps: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Tiananmen+Square+Noodle+Shop/@60.6132538,15.6687509,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x94603408e3c63fb3!8m2!3d60.6132538!4d15.6687509 + @@ -2647,7 +2668,7 @@ Popular <> forum system and server from 1995, pre HTML, works Ciro Santilli's appearances on PTT: * 2020-01-31: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1580484253.A.37A.html "stackoverflow菁英卻痛恨中國" by https://pttweb.tw/user/Eric0605/["Eric0605 (我還有點餓)"] on the Gossiping board -* 2017-06-19 https://pttweb.tw/s/2K9zV "Ciro Santilli 709大抓捕 六四事件 法轮" on the Gossiping board +* 2017-06-19 https://pttweb.tw/s/2K9zV "Ciro Santilli <> 六四事件 法轮" on the Gossiping board * 2016-10-03 https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Soft_Job/M.1478104872.A.916.html "Github也出現網軍了嗎?" by gocreating on the Soft_Job board Archaic, fucking impossible to learn how to use. Ciro Santilli hasn't managed yet, so if you want a reply from him, open an issue on this repo instead. @@ -2750,7 +2771,7 @@ image::https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/Love_play_in_China.jp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong -<> created in the 80's by a Chinese dude called <>. +<> created in the '80s by a Chinese dude called <>. With the support of the Communist Party to Qigong movements, it reached 70 million believers in 1999, at which point the commies decided they had to be shut down and banned the religion. @@ -2764,7 +2785,7 @@ video::GwoO7Nekmpw[youtube,height=400,width=600,start=445] ==== Falun Gong is not important to be worth discussing -The main reason I emphasise FLG it that is shows how the CCP can mercilessly crush a 70M strong group (according to CCPs own statistics) out of a population of 1.3B in 2000, i.e. 5% of the population. +The main reason I emphasize FLG is that it shows how the CCP can mercilessly crush a 70M strong group (according to CCPs own statistics) out of a population of 1.3B in 2000, i.e. 5% of the population. If that is correct, I'm curious to understand what you consider an important movement? :-) @@ -2817,7 +2838,7 @@ ____ Ah good old prophets, their tricks haven't changed a bit in 2 thousand years! This is why <> follows instead the religion of <>: those religions instead say: test your God. Test your God a billion times. And if your God proves wrong once, disblieve it. -And you just repeat these truth over and over and over: +And you just repeat these truths over and over and over: * FLG is good * FLG is good @@ -2836,7 +2857,7 @@ And you just repeat these truth over and over and over: * FLG is good * FLG is good * FLG is good -* xref:flg-religion[Final judgement] +* xref:flg-religion[Final judgment] * FLG is good * <>, not figuratively, but literally as in they are representatives of, or evil supernatural beings themselves. E.g. <> is actually an evil frog in some alternate dimension, literally, not just memecally. The Chinese Government is literally responsible for creating <>. They give the CCP too much credit. The CCP are just a bunch of lazy and greedy people like you and me. @@ -2844,7 +2865,7 @@ Ciro would really like to know if <> really believes in FLG, or Just imagine if before he died he published a video saying: "it was a joke, gotcha!". Now that would be **epic**! -Since Ciro is good natured, it's hard for me to believe that he doesn't believe in anything, how can anyone be that evil? Maybe he believes in part of it, but made up some stuff to sell it better, maybe with good intentions that selling the fake part would also lead more people to see the good part? +Since Ciro is good-natured, it's hard for me to believe that he doesn't believe in anything, how can anyone be that evil? Maybe he believes in part of it, but made up some stuff to sell it better, maybe with good intentions that selling the fake part would also lead more people to see the good part? Like any other prophetic religion, FLG gives tiny evidence that you can directly feel through meditation. The energies, which Ciro believe are real feelings. And then using that entry point asks you to believe a whole lot more, that you can't feel. @@ -2862,14 +2883,14 @@ See also: <>. He hasn't read their <> himself, no patience, but he has had constant contact with believers and so has an idea of its content. -Ciro has summarized his toughts about <> at: <>. +Ciro has summarized his thoughts about <> at: <>. [[flg-canon]] ==== What are the canonical Falun Gong texts? It appears that Falun Gong cannon is present at: http://falundafa.org/ -It contains <>'s approved texts / speech transcriptions, which are sacred. +It contains <>'s approved texts/speech transcriptions, which are sacred. The only sacred version is Chinese which is a sacred language, and of which there is only one perfect revision. Islam also appears to place great importance on the sacredness of Arabic in which Mohamed first spoke, perhaps even more: https://nationalinterest.org/feature/plight-uyghurs-why-muslims-wont-speak-their-brethren-112466 Protestants and later the Catholic church, have moved away from such really bad strategy however, the accessibility of Christianity is seen on the entrance of many many churches which have a sign "ALL are welcome". Well played. @@ -2877,7 +2898,7 @@ I think <> claims the specifically chose to reincarnate in China The English translation is made by followers, and gets new revisions to reduce translation imperfection. -However, the Chinese language seems to be fundamentally sacred, and there might never be an sacred English version approved by LHZ. +However, the Chinese language seems to be fundamentally sacred, and there might never be a sacred English version approved by LHZ. LHZ is of course a de-facto God with superpowers, and can of course speak all languages, but for reasons he didn't just write an English translation himself. @@ -2891,9 +2912,9 @@ TODO: need to find a way to wrap lines, otherwise grep might fail on sentences. Nothing else is canonical. LHZ seems to have said that there are enlightened followers, but has not specified who, so we can't derive canon from anyone else. -Notably, <> such as http://www.minghui.org/ is believer led and thus not canonical, even though believers have very high confidence on it, and LHZ <>. +Notably, <> such as http://www.minghui.org/ is believer led and thus not canonical, even though believers have very high confidence in it, and LHZ <>. -==== Do you support FLG, or just use it because it is a censored? +==== Do you support FLG, or just use it because it is censored? I don't support FLG specifically, only freedom of religion. @@ -2916,7 +2937,7 @@ This will obviously vary from believer to believer, but here my experience. Like any other religion that is taken seriously, they spend several hours per week doing their standard religious activities: <>. -I have never seen them, or anyone we know from FLG say or do something that I consider morally incorrect because of FLG. +I never seen them, or anyone we know from FLG say or do something that I consider morally incorrect because of FLG. This does not prevent <> from working normally. @@ -2936,7 +2957,7 @@ If I pursue my meaning, why should I prevent anyone from pursuing theirs? Previously, my wife and mother-in-law would sometimes try to persuade me to learn FLG, which was annoying. -But every time I told them very clearly that I know where to download the books if I want to, and that I may never want to read them, and that my wife must either accept this fact of leave me. +But every time I told them very clearly that I know where to download the books if I want to, and that I may never want to read them, and that my wife must either accept this fact or leave me. And they have accepted that: they think I'm a good person, and they can accept that you can also be a good person even without doing FLG. @@ -2946,7 +2967,7 @@ One thing that does worry me is that my mother in law sleeps too little every ni Bibliography: -* http://www.zhihu.com/question/27659795 (https://www.zhihu.com/question/27659795[archive])家里有人练法轮功是一种怎样的体验？ +* http://www.zhihu.com/question/27659795 (https://www.zhihu.com/question/27659795[archive]) 家里有人练法轮功是一种怎样的体验？ How is it like to live with Falun Gong believers? ==== In the Tweet about his mother in law, Ciro Santilli says "correctional facility", but reeducation through labour has been abolished @@ -2966,7 +2987,7 @@ Main points which may have changed: But why shouldn't they organize to defend themselves now that they have the chance without being put into prison? + The CCP is highly organized and has way more resources. -* Less emphasis is given to the religious / mystical aspect, and more to the corporal exercises, and health aspect. +* Less emphasis is given to the religious/mystical aspect, and more to the corporal exercises, and health aspect. + This may be because people in the "West" are: + @@ -2987,7 +3008,7 @@ And if it has changed, now that it has changed, maybe China should unban it? 1.5M USD in 2010 for a FLG controlled internet freedom group http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8678760.stm -But well, if you are going to do something anyways, and someone offers you money, why wouldn't you take it? +But well, if you are going to do something anyway, and someone offers you money, why wouldn't you take it? Taking the money does of course give a "bad impression" that someone is trying to buy influence, but does it in itself imply that you are doing something bad? @@ -3084,7 +3105,7 @@ Then they link to the Taping Rebellion: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Heavenly_Kingdom -Of course FLG it was a threat to the stability of the country. +Of course FLG was a threat to the stability of the country. It is, as <> has said, a highly organized political power: <>. @@ -3099,7 +3120,7 @@ Now read: <> ==== Many people say they do FLG only to get VISAs to the USA -Heard this a few times, and I believe it has happened. +<> heard this a few times, and I believe it has happened. But I don't see how this is relevant at all to this discussion: @@ -3148,7 +3169,7 @@ If you do provide all of the above, I add your report to a list of reports that Next consider this: -* are you sure that Falun Gong made the person do the bad thing, and that the person wouldn't have done it anyways? +* are you sure that Falun Gong made the person do the bad thing, and that the person wouldn't have done it anyway? + Did someone from Falun Gong told the person to do it? + @@ -3156,17 +3177,17 @@ I bet that if you look into patients of psychiatrists, you will find more suicid * are you sure that the order came from <>, and that it was not just some disgruntled local leader using Falun Gong for his personal madness and doing things he did not approve? + Branch Davidians were inspired by <>. So should we ban Christianity? What about the majority of Christians who have never done anything bad? -* only statistics has any meaning, and it would require a very large number of reports to make up statistics, so you will likely be wasting your time. I will do my part and maintain a list however. -* if ask for FLG believers to compile a list of horrors they have suffered, which they have already been doing since the start of the persecution, I bet that their list will be much longer than yours, because they are so <> +* only statistics have any meaning, and it would require a very large number of reports to make up statistics, so you will likely be wasting your time. I will do my part and maintain a list however. +* if we ask for FLG believers to compile a list of horrors they have suffered, which they have already been doing since the start of the persecution, I bet that their list will be much longer than yours, because they are so <> [[flg-persecution]] ==== FLG does not have proof of their persecution claims -How much proof do you think they would be able to get when there is no freedom of press? +How much proof do you think they would be able to get when there is no freedom of the press? Do you think that forbidding a <> person religion could have gone smoothly? -Do you think the thousands of personal of accounts of human rights violations that exist are all fake, and don't indicate that many, many more have taken place but fallen under censorship? +Do you think the thousands of personal accounts of human rights violations that exist are all fake, and don't indicate that many, many more have taken place but fallen under censorship? Conversely, there is no reliable proof that FLG is bad as claimed by CCP that has been verified by international media. @@ -3201,7 +3222,7 @@ Now proceed to prove that FLG made and will continue making people do bad things For every desire of the masses, there will be amoral representatives that will step to use that power. -Still, those representatives cannot gain power if there is no backing desire from the society. +Still, those representatives cannot gain power if there is no backing desire from society. The only advantage of <>, is that those representatives have to pretend harder to do things for that group to retain their power. @@ -3252,7 +3273,7 @@ Long version: It is obviously very hard to prove and quantify it definitely, much like it was hard to prove the Holocaust: bodies were cremated, and bribes were paid. -Even if we had a video showing the whole process, showing the whole money flow from donor to prison guard, it would still be hard to quantify it, so I do have some room for doubt in this opinion. +Even if we had a video showing the whole process, showing the whole money flow from the donor to the prison guard, it would still be hard to quantify it, so I do have some room for doubt in this opinion. But consider the following, which is based on what I heard. @@ -3280,7 +3301,7 @@ Don't you think, then, that it is extremely likely that it has happened many tim Bibliography: * https://bmcmedethics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12910-019-0406-6 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191118135832/https://bmcmedethics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12910-019-0406-6[archive]) "Analysis of official deceased organ donation data casts doubt on the credibility of China’s organ transplant reform" by Matthew P. Robertson, Raymond L. Hinde and Jacob Lavee published at "BMC Medical Ethics" which is part of Springer Nature in 14 November 2019 -* The Slaughter: Mass Killings, Organ Harvesting, and China's Secret Solution to Its Dissident Problem, by Ehtan Gutmann, 2014 +* The Slaughter: Mass Killings, Organ Harvesting, and China's Secret Solution to Its Dissident Problem, by Ethan Gutmann, 2014 ** ** @@ -3288,13 +3309,13 @@ Bibliography: 2018 https://chinatribunal.com/ -This is a mock tribunal, without any power of law, and was of course initially lobbied / organized brought up by FLG: https://endtransplantabuse.org/ +This is a mock tribunal, without any power of law, and was of course initially lobbied/organized brought up by FLG: https://endtransplantabuse.org/ -However, Ciro Santilli believes that none of the lawyers / jury members are FLG believers, and that they are trying to honestly decide if there is enough evidence or not for organ harvesting in China. +However, Ciro Santilli believes that none of the lawyers / jury members are FLG believers, and that they are trying to honestly decide if there is enough evidence or not for organ harvesting in China. They also have non-FLG witnesses. -Wether you believe in their partiality or not, I highly recommend watching some of what the witnesses, which I find very convincing and informative: +Whether you believe in their partiality or not, I highly recommend watching some of what the witnesses, which I find very convincing and informative: * https://youtu.be/oW3IaaXWE8s?t=7225 Swedish man who spent several years in prison in China @@ -3338,16 +3359,16 @@ E.g. they call themselves "practitioners" instead of believers. But Ciro Santilli strongly believes that this is just a language barrier/FLG propaganda question, and that people in the West would classify FLG as a religion if they are told that for FLG: -* absolute truth comes from an enlightened <>, who is perfect and has super human abilities +* absolute truth comes from an enlightened <>, who is perfect and has superhuman abilities * weekly meetings where they read from a sacred book, either written by the prophet, or transcribed from his presentations to disciples, including the disciples questions, much like traditional Chinese texts like link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analects[The Analects of Confucius] * prescribed daily meditation exercise hours, somewhat like Muslim https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salah[Salah] prayers which they call https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fazhengnian[发正念 (fa1 zheng4 nian4)] * higher intelligent beings * other dimensions -* aliens that looks like humans are amongst us, they gave us part of our modern technology +* aliens that look like humans are amongst us, they gave us part of our modern technology * meetings in which people tell their religious testimonies ("experience sharing"): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testimony#Religion -* an impending link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Judgment[final judgement]-like event, which will happen "very soon" (<>), and in which the just will be rewarded +* an impending link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Judgment[final judgment]-like event, which will happen "very soon" (<>), and in which the just will be rewarded + -I predict that when <> dies, the claim will be that he went to another dimension so save us all, therefore putting this final judgement on hold, a bit like Jesus. +I predict that when <> dies, the claim will be that he went to another dimension so save us all, therefore putting this final judgment on hold, a bit like Jesus. * link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-air_preaching[street preaching] with stands and leaflets on the streets exactly like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah's_Witnesses[Jehovah's Witnesses]. The Falun Gong organization also specifies guidelines on how to preach, although these might not be <>, even though if they are not, it is extremely likely that <> is directly involved in their specification Or a <>, which is nothing but a new/small religion with negative connotation, and thus meaningless. @@ -3356,7 +3377,7 @@ FLG is very similar to Scientology in Ciro's view: a new religion that mixes ele But consider this: how to classify what a religion is? -Some would answer: science is what everyone can perceive with their own senses. +Some would answer: science is what every one can perceive with their own senses. But FLG followers claim to feel FLG energies when doing the exercises, and a few of them have the power of seeing the other dimensions. @@ -3402,7 +3423,7 @@ Agreed, and it is a point that hurts more than helps their cause. But the media is not legally obliged to state their affiliation. -And if that were the case, then we should force _all_ newspapers start taking pools of how many employees follow which religion and support which political party, and then put that in their print. +And if that were the case, then we should force _all_ newspapers to start taking polls of how many employees follow which religion and support which political party, and then put that in their print. [[flg-intolerance]] ===== FLG dislikes several other groups like homosexuals and some other religions @@ -3417,7 +3438,7 @@ What matters is that we treat everyone with respect and without bias at work, ev But the law can't force you to like everyone. -If one specific FLG member breaks a law by discriminating someone, they should be punished just like anyone else. +If one specific FLG member breaks a law by discriminating against someone, they should be punished just like anyone else. See also: @@ -3427,7 +3448,7 @@ See also: [[flg-medication]] ===== FLG believers are less likely to take necessary medication -Due to their beliefs in the healing power of FLG, which seems to have certain level of support on <> TODO precise quotes. +Due to their beliefs in the healing power of FLG, which seems to have a certain level of support on <> TODO precise quotes. This is a point that makes me worry, and I do believe that it is true for some believers, that but consider: @@ -3437,11 +3458,11 @@ This is a point that makes me worry, and I do believe that it is true for some b * several religions, including <> have miraculous cure claims. My impression is that claims were mostly notable in the old times apparently, likely because people noticed that Christians were still dying of all kinds of diseases like everyone else, no matter how devout! * maybe the main reason why communists banned FLG is the political threat it posed, but that a ban was unjustified given the situation. Christian crosses are being taken down as of 2016, have they stopped taking their medications as well? * maybe many of those people would also have died soon even if they had taken medication -* maybe not all Falun Gong believers thought that it was wise to stop taking medication. But their religion was banned anyways. Who can agree and follow all the innumerable prescriptions of any religious or legal system? +* maybe not all Falun Gong believers thought that it was wise to stop taking medication. But their religion was banned anyway. Who can agree and follow all the innumerable prescriptions of any religious or legal system? * all the following also reduce people's lifespan: + -- -** riding motorcycles vs cars / buses +** riding motorcycles vs. cars/buses ** smoking ** moving to a poor country to do charity there ** eating fast food @@ -3460,13 +3481,13 @@ The term "master" is also used for example in the fictional film The Master (201 <> prefers to call him <>, since he feels LHZ is indistinguishable from <>. -I agree that there is danger in every religion, and specially new religions. +I agree that there is danger in every religion, and especially new religions. However the same point can be made about political parties and in particular the CCP and its chairman. -Couldn't a charismatic leader chairman gain more and more power (like Xi seems to be doing), and eventually start a war and kill millions? Or just kill some minority which is not happy about the situation. +Couldn't a charismatic leader chairman gain more and more power (like Xi seems to be doing), and eventually start a war and kill millions? Or just kill some minority who is not happy about the situation. -Similarly, any charismatic leader of a pro democracy movement could become the leader of a terrorist organization. +Similarly, any charismatic leader of a pro-democracy movement could become the leader of a terrorist organization. If you ever want democracy, you will have to learn to accept the beliefs of others, and only punish them when they actually break a law. @@ -3490,15 +3511,17 @@ image::https://web.archive.org/web/20200226083545/https://i.pinimg.com/564x/32/f .Dubstep Li can liangong at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubstep[dubstep] speed. https://giphy.com/gifs/dubstep-gifs-dubstepgifs-xUOwFY1prqgUdPuFvW[Source]. image::http://web.archive.org/web/20200229161316if_/https://i.giphy.com/media/xUOwFY1prqgUdPuFvW/giphy.webp[height=400] -===== Some FLG people make phone telemarketing +===== Some Falun Gong people make phone telemarketing -Ciro Santilli has seen Falun Gong pepole planning to make phone calls to people in China with to explain why FLG is with his own eyes, and therefore is sure it has happened on some scale. +Ciro Santilli has seen Falun Gong people making phone calls to people in China with to explain why FLG is with his own eyes, particularly during <>, and therefore is sure it has happened on some scale. + +It also seems that such directives had <>'s direct approval, although Ciro does not have proof of that. Ciro strongly disapproves of this, Just like for any product, visual ads on the street are impossible to prevent, but any kind of advertising that generates notifications on feeds, or takes people's time, is unacceptable. Ciro has not however seen them talking about making automated phone calls. -https://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/1940394/how-rampant-phone-scams-highlight-chinas-need-tighter also mentions that Falung Gong makes telemarketing in passing without any reference. +https://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/1940394/how-rampant-phone-scams-highlight-chinas-need-tighter also mentions that Falun Gong makes telemarketing in passing without any reference. ==== Falun Gong bibliography @@ -3712,7 +3735,7 @@ video::t2hBtXdaYsQ[youtube,height=400,width=600] * 2019-04-28 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-48084019 Hong Kong: Thousands protest against China extradition law ** https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/auqkdl/biotech_giant_thermo_fisher_stops_selling_dna/ * 2019-01 https://www.apnews.com/40f7cf4c0c6e43f18121af93f1e418f7 Microsoft Bing https://www.bing.com/ search engine blocked in China -* 2019-01 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/02/business/china-internet-censor.html interview with Beyondsoft, a company that offers censoring services +* 2019-01 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/02/business/china-internet-censor.html interview with Beyondsoft, a company that offers censorship services [[nine-nine-six-icu]] ==== 996.ICU @@ -3754,7 +3777,7 @@ image::https://web.archive.org/web/20191023085035/https://avatars3.githubusercon * 2018-01 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/19/outspoken-chinese-human-rights-lawyer-yu-wensheng-arrested * 2018-01 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-politics/hong-kong-activist-banned-from-by-election-in-what-pro-democracy-party-calls-payback-idUSKBN1FG06P * 2018-01 https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/12/world/asia/china-church-dynamite.html -* 2018-01 http://uk.businessinsider.com/china-marriott-tweets-censorship-2018-1?r=US&IR=T Marriott lists <> as country in the website +* 2018-01 http://uk.businessinsider.com/china-marriott-tweets-censorship-2018-1?r=US&IR=T Marriott lists <> as country on the website * 2018-01 http://chuangcn.org/2018/01/the-mastermind/ * 2018-01 http://time.com/5112061/china-hip-hop-ban-tattoos-television/ @@ -3774,9 +3797,8 @@ image::https://web.archive.org/web/20191023085035/https://avatars3.githubusercon * 2017-05 https://qz.com/989454/a-chinese-students-commencement-speech-at-the-university-of-maryland-praising-fresh-air-and-democracy-is-riling-chinas-internet/ * 2017-05 http://www.sixthtone.com/news/1000233/at-wedding-market%2C-mothers-of-gays-and-lesbians-face-resistance * 2017-05 https://ktar.com/story/1564381/ap-exclusive-china-lawyers-family-says-us-helped-them-flee -* 2017-04 https://citizenlab.ca/2017/04/we-cant-chat-709-crackdown-discussions-blocked-on-weibo-and-wechat/ * 2017-04 https://chinachange.org/2017/05/03/breaking-lawyer-chen-jiangang-with-family-and-two-friends-seized-by-armed-police-in-yunnan/ -* 2017-03 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-39137293 BBC Team forced to sign confession +* 2017-03 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-39137293 "China congress: BBC team forced to sign confession" === News 2016 @@ -3785,9 +3807,8 @@ image::https://web.archive.org/web/20191023085035/https://avatars3.githubusercon * 2016-09: http://qz.com/783026/china-censorship-chinese-citizens-are-being-arrested-for-sharing-news-about-the-wukan-village-rebellion-online/ http://qz.com/781989/foreign-journalists-are-wanted-for-3000-by-chinese-authorities-for-inciting-unrest-in-a-village/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wukan_protests * 2016-06 https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/jun/28/china-lady-gaga-ban-list-hostile-foreign-forces-meeting-dalai-lama * 2016-06 https://github.com/github/gov-takedowns/blob/78775b09e64d85f08547287cab204b48b2491192/China/2016/2016-06-08-programthink-zhao.md first GitHub takedown, see also: <> -* 2016 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/12/world/asia/china-britain-queen-xi-jinping.html?_r=0 queen says Chinese were rude in state visit +* 2016 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/12/world/asia/china-britain-queen-xi-jinping.html?_r=0 "Queen Elizabeth II Says Chinese Officials Were ‘Very Rude’ on State Visit" * 2016 http://shanghaiist.com/2016/05/06/dont_eat_that_banana.php Sexy banana eating forbidden -* 201X http://qz.com/671211/chinas-propaganda-outlets-have-leaped-the-top-of-facebook-even-though-it-banned-at-home/ Chinese government uses forbidden media in China like Facebook and Twitter, possibly click farmed * 2016-04 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2016/01/26/china-threatens-sanctions-against-u-s-companies-is-this-the-future/ China economic sanctions companies that sell weapons to <> (some of those companies also sell civilian products to China) * 2016-04 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/china-demands-shutdown-disneylife-service-887599 Disney Life blocked * 2016-04 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/china-demands-shutdown-apples-film-886831 Apple iTunes and iBooks blocked @@ -3806,7 +3827,7 @@ image::https://web.archive.org/web/20191023085035/https://avatars3.githubusercon * 2015 https://news.vice.com/article/the-missing-hong-kong-booksellers-family-isnt-buying-his-televised-confession Gui Minhai, 51, from publisher Mighty Current who was going to publish a book about <>'s love life. ** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gui_Minhai ** 2020: stenced to 10 years https://www.hongkongfp.com/2020/02/25/bookseller-gui-minhai-jailed-10-years-china-illegally-providing-intelligence-overseas-parties -** Lam Wingkee is another one of the detaine bookselers of the Causeway Bay Books group +** Lam Wing-kee (林榮基) is another one of the detained booksellers of the Causeway Bay Books group *** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lam_Wing-kee *** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHq0f_eGLhE 2016 interview in freedom *** https://china-journal.org/2019/04/27/abducted-hong-kong-bookseller-has-fled-to-taiwan-to-avoid-extradition-to-china/ @@ -3815,24 +3836,36 @@ image::https://web.archive.org/web/20191023085035/https://avatars3.githubusercon * 2015 https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/08/speech-enables-speech-china-takes-aim-its-coders https://github.com/shadowsocks/shadowsocks shadowsocks creator threatened * 2015 http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-34630829 Lego refuses to sell to Ai Weiwei * 2015 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/13/world/asia/china-bao-zhuoxuan-son-wang-yu-rights-lawyer-house-arrest.html Bao Zhuoxuan 16-year old son of human rights layer in house arrest -* 2015 Human rights activists crackdown 200+ in jail + +[[the-709-crackdown]] +==== 709 crackdown 中國709維權律師大抓捕事件 (2015) + +* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/709_crackdown +* https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/中國709維權律師大抓捕事件 + +Hundreds of human rights activists put into jail in quick succession. Short forms: + +* 710律师劫 +* 709大抓捕 + +News coverage: + +* 2015 ** http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/23/world/asia/china-crackdown-human-rights-lawyers.html ** http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/13/china/china-activists-arrests/ ** http://time.com/3954935/china-arrests-lawyers-human-rights/ -** https://program-think.blogspot.com/2015/07/weekly-share-90.html -** https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/中國709維權律師大抓捕事件 -** #710律师劫 -** https://program-think.blogspot.com/2015/07/weekly-share-90.html -* 2015-03 China forces real usernames on the net, and provoking ones -** https://advox.globalvoices.org/2015/04/16/new-internet-rules-in-china-target-usernames-avatars-as-subversive-tools/ -** http://www.engadget.com/2015/02/28/china-username-policy-purge/ +** https://program-think.blogspot.com/2015/07/weekly-share-90.html from <> +* 2017 +** 2017-04 https://citizenlab.ca/2017/04/we-cant-chat-709-crackdown-discussions-blocked-on-weibo-and-wechat/ + +Se also: <> === News pre-2015 * 2014 https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/4hmhzt/xinjiang_massacre_2014_resulted_in_30005000_deaths/ something very serious happened in Xinjiang. * 2014 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/28/china-media-watchdog-bans-wordplay-puns "China bans wordplay in attempt at pun control" * 2013 https://www.ft.com/content/db8b9e36-1119-11e8-940e-08320fc2a277 Peter Humphrey -* 2012 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuctech. One of the most blocked on Wikipedia according to: link:complete-gfw-rulebook-for-wikipedia-v3.0.pdf[] Nutech Namiba Hu Haifeng corruption scandal 纳米比亚威视胡海峰腐败丑闻 +* 2012 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuctech. One of the most blocked on Wikipedia according to: link:complete-gfw-rulebook-for-wikipedia-v3.0.pdf[] Nutech Namibia Hu Haifeng corruption scandal 纳米比亚威视胡海峰腐败丑闻 * 2011 2011 Chinese pro-democracy protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Chinese_pro-democracy_protests | https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/中国茉莉花活动 * 2010 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8682145.stm 10 month Xinjiang Internet blackout * 2009 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tan_Zuoren#2009_court_case Ai Weiwei documentary about it: https://aiweiwei.com/documentaries/disturbing-the-peace/index.html @@ -3893,7 +3926,7 @@ image::https://web.archive.org/web/20191123101626im_/https://allthatsinteresting .Students from Beijing University stage a huge demonstration in Tiananmen Square as they start an unlimited hunger strike as the part of mass pro-democracy protest against the Chinese government, on May 18, 1989. Catherine Henriette/AFP/Getty Images. https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2014/06/1989-tiananmen-square-protests-photos/100751/[Source]. image::https://web.archive.org/web/20190816074546im_/https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2014/06/tiananmen-square-25-years-ago/t04_52017200/main_1200.jpg?1420497899[height=400] -.Happy protesters surround army convoy of 4,000 not so happy soldiers on May 20, 1989. Ciro can't help but to think the politically incorrect idea that that the military <>. https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-06-04/1989-tiananmen-square-protests-photos[Source]. +.Happy protesters surround army convoy of 4,000 not so happy soldiers on May 20, 1989. Ciro can't help but to think the politically incorrect idea that the military <>. https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-06-04/1989-tiananmen-square-protests-photos[Source]. image::https://web.archive.org/web/20191104220423im_/https://media.pri.org/s3fs-public/styles/w2304/public/images/2019/06/20190601tiananmen9.jpg?itok=UciBSEHP[] .A young woman is caught between civilians and Chinese soldiers, who were trying to remove her from an assembly near the Great Hall of the People in Beijing, on June 3, 1989. AP Photo/Jeff Widener. https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2014/06/1989-tiananmen-square-protests-photos/100751/[Source]. @@ -4011,6 +4044,7 @@ image::https://web.archive.org/web/20191030232817im_/http://s.wsj.net/public/res .Photoshop of Arthur Tsang's photo of Tank Man with huge rubber ducks replacing the tanks. Inspired by a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSo5MqQVwCY[huge inflatable rubber duck sculpture floating in Hong Kong in 2013]. https://petapixel.com/2013/06/05/yellow-duck-version-of-tank-man-photo-goes-viral-amidst-chinese-censorship[Source]. image::https://web.archive.org/web/20140722052337im_/http://petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2013/06/duckytankman.jpg[height=600] +[[lego-tank-man]] .Rough https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego[Lego] model of the Tank Man scene. https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1499216-tank-man[Source]. image::https://web.archive.org/web/20200315112433if_/https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/499/216/29f.png[height=400] @@ -4134,7 +4168,7 @@ The following offer interesting commentary, but not to be used as primary source [[biased-media]] === Biased media 偏见媒体 -I consider the media in this section biased, and never cite it for fact checking. +I consider the media in this section biased, and never cite it for fact-checking. [[chinese-government-media]] ==== Chinese government media 中国政府媒体 @@ -4283,7 +4317,7 @@ https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcZOZrP1P_V5d7RMOKXF1PT70fcfYJpgY Interesting videos that were deleted/made private since he added them: * 2019-04-17 http://web.archive.org/web/20190424021220/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPnnHCeRH3w the Leica ad: https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/19/18508009/leica-china-censored-ad-tiananmen-square-protests-weibo Re-upload by SCMP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcuLZDHLFt8 -* 2019-05-18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAEUafI_lyI not on Web Archive, lesson learnt +* 2019-05-18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAEUafI_lyI not on Web Archive, lesson learned [[funny]] == Funny 搞笑 @@ -4564,7 +4598,7 @@ Source: the first International email sent from China in 1987 by https://zh.wiki Not 100% sure. -In <> for example, the Internet is relatively free, but the government controls most professional media, which is what most people end up seeing, by suing dissidents media out of business. +In <>, for example, the Internet is relatively free, but the government controls most professional media, which is what most people end up seeing, by suing dissidents media out of business. But on the other hand Russia is already much freer than China. @@ -4576,7 +4610,7 @@ Although I don't like them, I can't deny one thing: the commies are smart, and w * without censorship, you would be much richer and stronger, and more able to defend yourselves * why does China also censor its own people in addition to foreign propaganda? -* maybe this fear is greatly emphasised by the Chinese government beyond truth just to help them keep control of the country by fear and maintain their own power. Can the Americans really have that much influence in your country? <> +* maybe this fear is greatly emphasized by the Chinese government beyond truth just to help them keep control of the country by fear and maintain their own power. Can the Americans really have that much influence in your country? <> * maybe the regions that want to split from China feel like China is not giving them anything back, and they are themselves looking for allies outside of China to help them split. With democracy, people are more likely to get what they want, and there will be split parties and votes. * the same argument can be used to justify any action, no matter how bad. E.g.: we must put all who criticize the government in jail, or else they will make China less united and weaker against the USA! @@ -4657,7 +4691,7 @@ In 2019, the European Union was considering making stricter laws about cyber sur * http://www.osborneclarke.com/insights/upcoming-changes-to-bring-cyber-surveillance-technology-within-eu-export-control-regime/ * http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/12/eu-plans-restrict-export-dual-spy-tech-171210061410639.html -See also: <>. +See also: <>. .Cartoon showing how Amesys systems are used to suppress citizens in Egypt. Do you want the logo of your company to figure there instead? https://www.fidh.org/en/region/north-africa-middle-east/egypt/sale-of-surveillance-equipment-to-egypt-by-french-company-amesys[Source]. image::https://web.archive.org/web/20200315112732if_/https://www.fidh.org/local/cache-gd2/86/564727cb219a210145a0dd6a1b7561.jpg?1556188970[height=400] @@ -4783,7 +4817,7 @@ And at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRqcA04FtmM he says <> * 2017-04-09 https://gking.harvard.edu/files/gking/files/50c.pdf "How the Chinese Government Fabricates Social Media Posts for Strategic Distraction, not Engaged Argument" by "Gary King, Jennifer Pan, Margaret E. Roberts" * https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/files-05202015150018.html @@ -4793,6 +4827,13 @@ Bibliography: C.K. Hung's wumao reply strategy: https://ckhung0.blogspot.com/2017/07/50-cents-party.html see also: <>. +[[real-username-law]] +==== Real username law (2015) + +* 2015-03 China forces real usernames on the net, and provoking ones +** https://advox.globalvoices.org/2015/04/16/new-internet-rules-in-china-target-usernames-avatars-as-subversive-tools/ "New Internet Rules in China Target Usernames, Avatars as Subversive Tools" +** http://www.engadget.com/2015/02/28/china-username-policy-purge/ "Chinese internet giants purge 60,000 accounts for inappropriate usernames" + [[social-credit-system]] === Social Credit System 社会信用体系 @@ -4907,7 +4948,6 @@ Or to Ciro's other online presences, due to China activity. For Zhihu backlinks, see: <>. * 2019-10-31: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6595454363743981568/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20191101094814/https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6595454363743981568/[archive]) "Good rundown of all the major news from China you don't see. Notice how you don't see anything about the Hong Kong protests anymore?" -* 2019-10-30: https://www.pincong.rocks/question/id-10294__sort_key-agree_count__sort-ASC (http://web.archive.org/web/20191101091242/https://www.pincong.rocks/question/id-10294__sort_key-agree_count__sort-ASC[archive]) "怎么让大陆把 Github 墙了？" How to get GitHub blocked by the Firewall? OP apparently really wants to block it? If yes, <>. Trigerred by some 2019-10 <> activity. * 2019-10 https://github.com/kon9chunkit/GitHub-Chinese-Top-Charts/blob/7131e2c1158a806f41c8f55308977048b02d2959/README-Part2.md Automatically generated list of repos with Chinese characters in their descriptions with the most upvotes per programming language. TODO why is this repo on their README-Part2 only? Has more stars than some stuff on main README. * 2019-10-12: https://hacpai.com/article/1570686552645 Login required, cowards. Post title: "更新 GitHub 官方 Repo 的人，竟然是个反华分子". Manual page dump after my replies with links to this FAQ: https://ia801505.us.archive.org/27/items/cirosantilli/hacpai_1570686552645.html OP then deleted my comments because they don't speak English "HacPai 是个文明的社区，不会发生辱骂的现象，你有你的观点，我们有我们的观点。但抱歉，我们的水平有限，没有阅读英文的能力，还请发送有效回复，否则只能折叠处理". It is some developper website: https://hacpai.com/article/1440573175609 (https://web.archive.org/web/20190811205230/https://hacpai.com/article/1440573175609[archive]) linked to https://github.com/b3log/solo[]. OP then made an useless post here: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues/70 As of 2019-10-12, I can't login there anymore, either because the website is shitty, or I was blocked. GitHub login just fails silently, cannot reset password. If blocked, cowards. This led me to update: <> with the canned reply. * 2019-09: https://admin.github.com Someone from GitHub has been thinking about us. s2 to you. @@ -4916,10 +4956,8 @@ For Zhihu backlinks, see: <>. * 2019-05: someone used the FAQ to answer a question: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/bt1mth/if_i_disappear_chinese_students_make_farewell/eou5a5q/ | http://web.archive.org/web/20190527072431/https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/bt1mth/if_i_disappear_chinese_students_make_farewell/eou5a5q/ "‘If I disappear’: Chinese students make farewell messages amid crackdowns over labor activism" * 2019-04-10: https://twitter.com/jnzst/status/1115824398961913857 gGTYgFulPg ** https://twitter.com/jnzst/status/1111395254408613888 -* 2019-04-09: https://pincong.rocks/question/3383 | http://web.archive.org/web/20190413063930/https://pincong.rocks/question/3383 "【小众问题】为何 Stack Overflow 2019 开发者调查报告中，来自中国的开发者最为积极乐观？" -** 2019-05: https://community.riskiq.com/search/pincong.rocks pingcong people deciding if they should ban me? :-) commented there once: https://pincong.rocks/question/3383 | http://web.archive.org/web/20190527072431/https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/bt1mth/if_i_disappear_chinese_students_make_farewell/eou5a5q/http://web.archive.org/web/20190413063930/https://pincong.rocks/question/3383 This also suggests that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RiskIQ helps censorship in China * 2019-01-10: https://twitter.com/ninoseki/statuses/1083512317952704512 | http://archive.is/vCwep 1300 followers. -* 2018-08: https://www.reddit.com/r/CCJ2/comments/93klir/moron_tries_to_dismantle_chinese_government_by | http://archive.is/HtYng "moron tries to dismantle chinese government by putting a few moon runes on some websites" Peak of 100 unique visitors / day from base rate of 5 +* 2018-08: https://www.reddit.com/r/CCJ2/comments/93klir/moron_tries_to_dismantle_chinese_government_by | http://archive.is/HtYng "moron tries to dismantle chinese government by putting a few moon runes on some websites" Peak of 100 unique visitors/day from the base rate of 5 ** led to: https://lihkg.com/thread/762440/page/1 | http://archive.is/7REOi "佢個個人home page好多5毛留言, 唔知會唔會搞到block堆stackoverflow" * 2018-07: http://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1531480621/l50 | http://web.archive.org/web/20180815081351/http://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1531480621/l50 "No more Xi Jinping" * 2018-06: http://medarc.org/pac.txt | https://web.archive.org/web/20180712094944/http://medarc.org/pac.txt puts cirosantilli.com in a blacklist containing the likes of asianpiss.com and clearwisdom.net. Awesome. Then I grepped the main one https://github.com/gfwlist/gfwlist with `while true; do git checkout HEAD~; if ! base64 -d gfwlist.txt | grep -q cirosan; then break; fi; done` and found that I was added in 24a6f6f29e24d1d7eb27946bf51d7a072ddb3e6d Tue Apr 24 2018. That is input data for https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/autoproxy/ which turns on a proxy only for certain websites. Therefore that is a definitive list of interesting stuff. I wonder how it is curated. @@ -4927,17 +4965,30 @@ For Zhihu backlinks, see: <>. * 2018-05-20: ** https://www.1point3acres.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=425684 Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20190701085047/https://www.1point3acres.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=425684 ** http://web.archive.org/web/20180520210006/http://www.1point3acres.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=425684&pid=3954113&page=1&extra= -* 2018-04-13: traffic peak, but no linkbacks. Many new Chinese followers, but few new stars on this repo, maybe they are afraid to star? Also someone (bot?) subscribed me to a hundred GovDelivery mailing lists, possibly linked? I also blocked an user from on GitHub due to impolite post. Also possibly linked to me posting a link to the FAQ more clearly on my home page recently: https://github.com/cirosantilli/cirosantilli.github.io/commit/f31d1651c0e7fef587e5910ff2dc1e2aba9a5763 +* 2018-04-13: traffic peak, but no linkbacks. Many new Chinese followers, but few new stars on this repo, maybe they are afraid to star? Also someone (bot?) subscribed me to a hundred GovDelivery mailing lists, possibly linked? I also blocked a user from on GitHub due to impolite post. Also possibly linked to me posting a link to the FAQ more clearly on my home page recently: https://github.com/cirosantilli/cirosantilli.github.io/commit/f31d1651c0e7fef587e5910ff2dc1e2aba9a5763 * 2018-03-11: got a large traffic peak (60 vs 10 average), but no linkbacks to match. Likely source: parcerier pinged me at: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/267715/is-stack-overflow-accessible-in-china/267723#comment562812_288497 and I revamped the and FAQ replied with https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/267715/is-stack-overflow-accessible-in-china/267723#comment562840_320914 Someone also made: http://archive.is/jcZCA which points to: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/267715/is-stack-overflow-accessible-in-china/267723#comment562810_267723 . This issue was opened that day as well: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues/12 * 2018-01: https://digitalrepository.unm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1088&context=cs_etds this site appears on the reference of a PhD thesis paper haha, links to complete-gfw-rulebook-for-wikipedia-v3.0.pdf. * 2017-05: https://t.co/AosRq06akz TODO where from. "Measuring Decentralization of Chinese Censorship in Three Industry Segments" by Jeffrey Knockel. Now at Citizenlab: https://www.cs.unm.edu/~jeffk/ * 2015-12-23: https://v2ex.com/t/245507 (link:https://github.com/cirosantilli/media/blob/9f7b07e915c4638d45a1b4922ba95c61e2ef87dc/webpages/v2ex-2015-12.html[Chromium CTRL-S save]) "搜 StackOverflow，无意间发现了这个，重点在那个评论" by https://v2ex.com/member/happypy1 * 2015-09-03: (deleted) http://www.weibo.com/2014703917/Cyc1gFt7A This is the user: http://www.weibo.com/2014703917 There have also been accesses from link:http://weibo.cn/sinaurl[], but I don't know what that means. -* 2015-08-03: 21 visitor Facebook peak, can't find source +* 2015-08-03: 21 visitor Facebook peak, can't find the source * 2015-06-20: (deleted) link:https://www.plurk.com/p/l1jjn4[] Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20150918110032/https://www.plurk.com/p/l1jjn4 "這阿豆阿的名字XDD" by https://www.plurk.com/m/u/cyuanXD * 2015-05-30: <> linked to <>'s stack overflow account!!! * 2015-04-10: https://v2ex.com/t/182766 (cannot archive, login requires CAPTCHA, link:https://github.com/cirosantilli/media/blob/9f7b07e915c4638d45a1b4922ba95c61e2ef87dc/webpages/v2ex-2015-04.html[Chromium CTRL-S save]) "Stack Overflow 上看到一个丧心病狂的程序员" by https://v2ex.com/member/cloudhunter +[[pincong]] +=== Pincong 品葱 + +https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/品葱 + +* 2019-10-30: https://www.pincong.rocks/question/id-10294__sort_key-agree_count__sort-ASC (http://web.archive.org/web/20191101091242/https://www.pincong.rocks/question/id-10294__sort_key-agree_count__sort-ASC[archive]) "怎么让大陆把 Github 墙了？" How to get GitHub blocked by the Firewall? OP apparently really wants to block it? If yes, <>. Trigerred by some 2019-10 <> activity. +* 2019-04-09: https://pincong.rocks/question/3383 | http://web.archive.org/web/20190413063930/https://pincong.rocks/question/3383 "【小众问题】为何 Stack Overflow 2019 开发者调查报告中，来自中国的开发者最为积极乐观？" +** 2019-05: https://community.riskiq.com/search/pincong.rocks Pingong people deciding if they should ban Ciro Santilli? :-) commented there once: https://pincong.rocks/question/3383 | http://web.archive.org/web/20190527072431/https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/bt1mth/if_i_disappear_chinese_students_make_farewell/eou5a5q/http://web.archive.org/web/20190413063930/https://pincong.rocks/question/3383 This also suggests that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RiskIQ helps censorship in China + +<>'s account: https://pincong.rocks/people/cirosantilli + +This website might not censor stuff, e.g.: people are using <> avatars: https://www.pincong.rocks/people/bushiwumao (http://web.archive.org/web/20200418194038/https://www.pincong.rocks/people/bushiwumao[archive]) + == Other sections TODO migrate all into this README. @@ -5008,7 +5059,7 @@ Quality indicators: ** Western instruments or modern digital effects ** on YouTube: "relax" videos with boring generic music. + -They usually have some cute landscape scenes or overly produced good looking women as thumbnail. +They usually have some cute landscape scenes or overly produced good looking women as the thumbnail. + Good video covers will show the musicians with their instruments, or Chinese traditional painting. * good: single instrument solo. There are some good multi-instrument and songs as well though, but harder to find. @@ -5028,7 +5079,7 @@ Here are the few best I've seen. Not enough to replace the non-free, but pretty * https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcZOZrP1P_V5J2P3ogZNpya0BAuPEgyuE my "Chinese Traditional Music YouTube playlist with all good music videos I found on YouTube. This will give you an initial idea. ** Notable longer videos -*** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35ZKN-H7at4 42 minute live Guqin presentation by Chen Leiji published by "Asia Society" on Jan 23, 2018, recoded in New York, January 20, 2018. +*** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35ZKN-H7at4 42 minute live Guqin presentation by Chen Leiji published by "Asia Society" on Jan 23, 2018, recorded in New York, January 20, 2018. ** Channels *** https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCltmf0pqjXyLtNsF2vek_wQ 自得琴社 Zi De Guqin Studio. Amazing production. *** https://www.youtube.com/user/yukinachang/videos "SoundofChina Guzheng" channel with a lot of guzheng content! @@ -5036,7 +5087,7 @@ Here are the few best I've seen. Not enough to replace the non-free, but pretty *** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc0CzuA35y8&list=PLXPo1Bj1TYy73e8s99pyKfFD7iHqwigfN "Chinese" by "Ungern Sternberg" * http://www.silkqin.com/06hear.htm John Thompson's Guqin website. Holy crap amazing list of Guqin pieces by the guy for MP3 download! ** Download all mp3: `wget -r -np -l 1 -A mp3 http://www.silkqin.com/06hear.htm`. Contacted John by email in 2019 telling him to put his stuff on YouTube and offering help. -** John focuses on playing the tunes in a "historically informed performance", in particular using silk strings rather that metal ones which are used by most modern artists: http://www.silkqin.com/08anal/hip.htm +** John focuses on playing the tunes in a "historically informed performance", in particular using silk strings rather than metal ones which are used by most modern artists: http://www.silkqin.com/08anal/hip.htm * https://www.ibiblio.org/chinese-music/ several loose tracks for direct download. Not sure if legal, but has been up forever. The following sections are pretty good: ** https://www.ibiblio.org/chinese-music/html/traditional.html ** https://www.ibiblio.org/chinese-music/html/anthology.html#Dream music from the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_of_the_Red_Chamber_(1987_TV_series)link:++https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_of_the_Red_Chamber_(1987_TV_series)++["Dream of the Red Chamber" 1987 TV series]. Amazing!!! @@ -5056,13 +5107,13 @@ Publisher: <>. Chinese information: http://web.archive.org/web/20190816092018/http://www.gyhj.org/read/179301/1/1 -English information with Google translate: http://web.archive.org/web/20190816090447/https://1337x.unblockninja.info/torrent/1254538/Master-of-Chinese-Traditional-Music-Complete-Series-20-CDs-ABEE/ +English information with Google Translate: http://web.archive.org/web/20190816090447/https://1337x.unblockninja.info/torrent/1254538/Master-of-Chinese-Traditional-Music-Complete-Series-20-CDs-ABEE/ English song names properly copied from images: http://web.archive.org/web/20190816092313/https://muzz.pro/chinese_instrumental_traditional_music_master_of_chinese_traditional_music_20_albums_2005_mp3_tracks_320_kbps-1625006.html A search on Amazon leads many of their albums in loose form: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=master+of+chinese+traditional+music&i=digital-music and you can patch together most of them by looking at the following two cover art styles: -TODO golden cover vs gray cover: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000QZUFQI (http://web.archive.org/web/20190816082640/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000QZUFQI[archive]), TODO find precise list. +TODO golden cover vs gray cover: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000QZUFQI (http://web.archive.org/web/20190816082640/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000QZUFQI[archive]), TODO find the precise list. [[masters-of-chinese-traditional-music-solo-appreciation]] ==== Masters of Chinese Traditional Music Solo Appreciation 中国民乐大师纯独奏鉴赏 @@ -5101,7 +5152,7 @@ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Record_Corporation | https://zh.wikipedia.or The most important publisher, AKA "CRC Jianian". -<>, their the website takes forever to load: http://www.china-crc.com.cn/[], and features mostly Communist shit, and I can't find the decent traditional music listed there. +<>, their website takes forever to load: http://www.china-crc.com.cn/[], and features mostly Communist shit, and I can't find the decent traditional music listed there. One thing to try is an Amazon advanced search by label "China Record Co": https://www.amazon.com/s?i=digital-music&rh=p_33%3AChina+Record+Co&s=relevancerank&Adv-Srch-MP3-Submit.x=42&Adv-Srch-MP3-Submit.y=4&unfiltered=1&ref=sr_adv_m_digital @@ -5315,7 +5366,7 @@ Maybe we should institute a Foodie Dictatorship (美食家独裁) that prevents * read up Chinese restaurant recommendation websites written in Chinese by Chinese for Chinese * read up small shady Chinese food recommendation websites by link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinophile[sinophiles like me] -Big Western sites like Google Maps reviews and TripAdvisor are completely and utterly useless for this and will recommend you places in which poor non-Chinese which don't know what real Chinese food is like. +Big Western sites like Google Maps reviews and TripAdvisor are completely and utterly useless for this and will recommend places in which poor non-Chinese which don't know what real Chinese food is like. If you go out on the street by yourself, you are very unlikely to find really good Chinese food since the enormous majority of Chinese restaurants are not real Chinese food. @@ -5325,7 +5376,7 @@ Western people don't know what good Chinese food is, so if you are not in a plac Beware of restaurant owner changes: if the menu looks a bit different, it has likely happened. -This is politically incorrect, but here goes: if the place looks as if it is maintained by more recent immigrants, and looks more modern, it is more likely to be good. There are however some venerable older uncles who have cooked well their entire lives and are still fine. Things tend water down across generations, and there was likely not enough real Chinese clientele for them to serve real Chinese food and survive in the past. +This is politically incorrect, but here goes: if the place looks as if it is maintained by more recent immigrants, and looks more modern, it is more likely to be good. There are however some venerable older uncles who have cooked well their entire lives and are still fine. Things tend to water down across generations, and there was likely not enough real Chinese clientele for them to serve real Chinese food and survive in the past. If a restaurant advertises itself as "Asian", it is less likely to be very good. @@ -5346,7 +5397,7 @@ For all restaurants, ask the waiter for suggestions. Tell him that you: * want the most typical dishes, not what the foreign locals eat, but what the Chinese eat * can eat spicy food, way more than any foreign local person can. + -The spice level you generally want is is "zhong1 la2" (medium spicy) +The spice level you generally want is "zhong1 la2" (medium spicy) + If you can't eat spicy, either learn or stop reading now and accept the fact that you will never eat good Chinese food. * if the restaurant is from some region, ask for dishes from the region, and which are different from other regions. @@ -5354,7 +5405,7 @@ If you can't eat spicy, either learn or stop reading now and accept the fact tha I was once <> (super popular dish everywhere in China which I buy frozen and eat every 3 days) in a Tibetan restaurant... Yes, I do believe Tibetans also eat jiaozi! :-) * Speaking a little Chinese goes a long way towards convincing the owners that you can handle the real thing. -Only order dishes with meat. Those without are not worth the money / time. Aubergine is the exception. +Only order dishes with meat. Those without are not worth the money/time. Aubergine is the exception. [[restaurants--france]] === France 法国 @@ -5428,7 +5479,7 @@ Hunan style. Last checked: 2016/04 * 0 d'Attente (锅先生不等位) + -55 Boulevard Saint Marcel, 75013 Paris +55 Boulevard Saint-Marcel, 75013 Paris + +33 9 81 49 68 06 + @@ -5436,7 +5487,7 @@ http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g187147-d6984996-Reviews-0_d_Attent + Like style of chairs and cutlery. + -Ironically, the service was not particularly fast as the name indicates. Normal, but not ultra fast as I imagined :-) +Ironically, the service was not particularly fast as the name indicates. Normal, but not ultra-fast as I imagined :-) + lotus with rice (Nuo mi tang ou) and boeuf sechee (guo xian sheng ...) not very good, but baked fish and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meigan_cai kaorou were great. + @@ -5447,7 +5498,7 @@ Last checked: 2016/02 + -- ** Marmite de poisson et de tofu (豆花鱼) -** Saliva chiken (口水鸡) +** Saliva chicken (口水鸡) ** Aubergines farcies sur plaqua chauffante (铁板脆皮茄) -- + @@ -5512,13 +5563,13 @@ Last checked: 2017/04 [[resturants--france--paris--tier-2]] ===== Paris tier 2 -Cheaper / simpler restaurants that are really worth it if you want to not be hungry, but not worth it if you want eat exceptional food: +Cheaper / simpler restaurants that are really worth it if you want not to be hungry, but not worth it if you want eat exceptional food: * Ace Boucherie + 58 Rue Sainte-Anne, 75002 Paris + -Korean take-away traiteur. Very good. Try calamar. +Korean takeaway traiteur. Very good. Try calamar. + Last checked: 2017/06 * Ji Bai He @@ -5552,7 +5603,7 @@ Liang ban mian, but do ask "wei la, they are strong. + 40 Rue Sainte-Anne, 75002 Paris + -Order big portion at your own risk. :-) +Order the big portion at your own risk. :-) + Last checked: 2017/04 * Chez Mamie (外婆家) @@ -5590,12 +5641,12 @@ WC2H 7JJ Last checked: 2016/08 -Not yet on Google maps so I don know the number, but the street is very small so should be easy to find. +Not yet on Google maps so I don't know the number, but the street is very small so should be easy to find. Chinese review: http://www.ukchinese.com/News/2016-05-07/15299.html [[resturants--uk--london--murger-han]] -===== Murger han +===== Murger Han Address: @@ -5611,7 +5662,7 @@ Last checked: 2019/01 Cuisine: Xi'an -Biangbiang noodles with all extras zhongla is amazing!!! Niuroupaomo OK, but not exciting. Roujiamo not very interesting, too bland for my taste. +Biangbiang noodles with all extras zhongla are amazing!!! Niuroupaomo OK, but not exciting. Roujiamo not very interesting, too bland for my taste. [[resturants--uk--london--tier-2]] ===== London tier 2 @@ -5626,7 +5677,7 @@ Little Newport Street WC2H 7JJ .... -Not yet on Google maps so I don know the number, but the street is very small so should be easy to find. +Not yet on Google maps so I don't know the number, but the street is very small so should be easy to find. Jianbing guozi, interesting spicy fast food. @@ -5731,7 +5782,7 @@ https://goo.gl/maps/DrDCPKWnG2M2 Last checked: 2019/03 -Not real Chinese food I'm afraid. Songshuyu not cut correctly into stripes and too much liquid sauce. Sijidou beans not dry enough, maybe need more frying. Early immigration (1968, mentioned on menu), almost no Chinese clients. Nice decoration and environment. +Not real Chinese food I'm afraid. Songshuyu was not cut correctly into stripes and too much liquid sauce. Sijidou beans not dry enough, maybe need more frying. Early immigration (1968, mentioned on menu), almost no Chinese clients. Nice decoration and environment. [[restaurants--uk--sheffield]] ==== Sheffield 谢菲尔德